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Old 07-23-2007, 05:37 PM
 
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Default Boston area to Indiana

We have been planning to leave MA for a while. We have been looking primarily south, but are starting to think the Midwest would be a better fit. We are a couple in our 30's with three small children. Are reasons are primarily cost of living and we are a bit more conservative than this state.

Non factors are employment, I am self employed, and schools. We homeschool. But we would obviously prefer a district that is friendly to homeschoolers.

This is sort of general, but if we were to consider Indiana, which we are, what are the best places as far as decent medical care, economy, safety and stuff to do? I know it will be a matter of opinion but our knowledge is very limited at this point. Any advice is appreciated.


Dave
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:27 AM
 
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I think you would be pleasantly surprised in Fort Wayne Indiana. Having lived in MA myself and now in Fort Wayne with my family, in my opinion this area has more to offer than any other in the North Eastern US I've lived within.

Medical care is excellent - with 4 hospitals, lots of great doctors, a large number of pediatricians and specialists. Since cost of living is low here, medical costs are as well.

The economy is doing well - others may state differently as there's a general curmudgeon attitude a lot of people on these boards have. The reality is that Ft Wayne has a brand new huge (and I am not exaggerating: very huge) main public library, a children's zoo I've never seen an equal to, a children's Science Museum, and more activities for families than I've ever seen anywhere else (too much to list here). The city is starting work on a brand new baseball park and market downtown, and there are not only excellent and affluent areas of expansion to the Southwest and Northwest sides of town, but there's effort and big dollars being spent to revitalize downtown (a new convention center followed by the library, and now the ballpark, market, and schools). The airport is small and convenient - and now there are flights to St Petersburg/Tampa & Orlando Florida and Las Vegas direct as well as to Cincinnati, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, and a few other hub locations. Small businesses do well in Fort Wayne - we seem to have a good enough economy in this vicinity that locally-owned restaurants and retailers do fare well against all the franchise and large corporate-owned businesses which Fort Wayne also has (we have everything you could want). There's also a brand new North East Indiana Small Business Development Center (SBDC) which opened up just last year to help support and encourage expansion of locally owned businesses.

Safety is a non-issue in Fort Wayne. Crime is low with the exception of a couple of streets in downtown. You can look up the stats online. Let me put it this way - crime is low enough that this city hosts festivals just about every other week in the summer time near downtown - and you never hear of problems. Speaking of festivals - indeed the summer months will not be boring for you; there's a lot going on every year - and everything is oriented towards families.

In terms of schools and even friendliness to home schoolers - no worries here. There are a good number of home-schooled kids, as well as great schools to attend. There are locally run parent groups - both geared towards preschoolers and older kids as well.

Then there are other things you didn't ask about...
The weather here has fewer extremes than the Boston Area --- overall, it is more moderate with more warm months, and when it is very cold or hot, it is usually short-lived. No hurricanes nor winter NorEasterns blow through here - you are just south enough to avoid Lake Effect snow. There are reports of occasional tornadoes, but the threat seems to be very mild. I've been here 7 years and not have seen one hit Fort Wayne - they tend to hit the more rural areas of Indiana when they do occur. I like the thunderstorms that blow through occasionally and don't worry about tornadoes at all (I "briefly" lived in the heart of tornado alley - and believe me, if there is someone who would be paranoid about them given reason, it would be me).

Cost of living in general is very low here. Taxes are nothing compared to MA overall - and the cost of real estate is just shocking to those of us from MA or NYC/Tri-state vicinities. For 150k you can get a 4br, 2/5 bath entry-level 2200 sq ft. McMansion. For 200k you can add a finished walk-out basement to a nice pond. For 250-350k you can get all that by a top quality builder in a neighborhood with a pool - and then there are neighborhoods and builders geared towards the 500k-to-million-plus price range. It is truly unbelievable - but all this can be had without living out in the boonies, and some friends of ours have actually made it a habit to build new houses & to move every few years - something you cannot do anywhere else I've lived. Likewise, the cost of insurance, is much lower here than in NY or MA - you'll enjoy paying a lot less for it.

There are a ton of other great features to Fort Wayne - such as the proximity to very large glacier-formed lakes which the locals spend their summer weekends at boating and water-skiing. There's also highway 69 which runs along the length (north to south) of the western side of Fort Wayne. This Highway takes you through Indianapolis (south) or up to Michigan and intersects with Interstate 90/80 (an east west route which you can take to Chicago or over to New York). The 69 is about to become a major North American trade & driving corridor from Mexico to Canada - construction has already begun in several states.

I've also posted other things in the past on Fort Wayne (check my posts from last year). There is truly a lot to offer. Good luck with your decision.

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Old 07-24-2007, 05:18 AM
 
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Default Indianapolis suburbs are very nice!

Look at the counties surrounding Indianapolis, they're all good with regards to your interest.

We hope to see you here but please leave your "Patriots" gear in MA and we'll make room for you on the "Colts" bandwagon!

cheers!
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:51 AM
 
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I met many homeschoolers when we lived in Hamilton County (Fishers, Carmel, Noblesville). The libraries all offer homeschool activities and library time. There are gyms too that offer homeschoolers activity time.

Healthcare is a nobrainer. Some of the finest hospitals are located in or near Indianapolis (Riley's, IU Med, St. Vincent). The economy isn't great for manufacturing, but it seems to be on the rebound somewhat. The Children's Museum of Indianapolis is beyond fabulous (my kids have taken classes there since they were 3). The zoo is pretty good. They just opened a shark touch tank and they have a butterfly exhibit every summer.

We just moved from Fishers to Columbus. Fishers is more suburban, while Columbus is not.

Here's a sheet on Indiana homeschooling ... hope it helps and hope to welcome your family to Indiana.

Indiana Homeschooling - A to Z Home's Cool

INDIANA FOUNDATION FOR HOME SCHOOLING, Local Support Groups (http://www.ifhsonline.org/localsupportgroups.htm - broken link)
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:15 PM
 
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I think you would be pleasantly surprised in Fort Wayne Indiana. Having lived in MA myself and now in Fort Wayne with my family, in my opinion this area has more to offer than any other in the North Eastern US I've lived within.

Medical care is excellent - with 4 hospitals, lots of great doctors, a large number of pediatricians and specialists. Since cost of living is low here, medical costs are as well.

The economy is doing well - others may state differently as there's a general curmudgeon attitude a lot of people on these boards have. The reality is that Ft Wayne has a brand new huge (and I am not exaggerating: very huge) main public library, a children's zoo I've never seen an equal to, a children's Science Museum, and more activities for families than I've ever seen anywhere else (too much to list here). The city is starting work on a brand new baseball park and market downtown, and there are not only excellent and affluent areas of expansion to the Southwest and Northwest sides of town, but there's effort and big dollars being spent to revitalize downtown (a new convention center followed by the library, and now the ballpark, market, and schools). The airport is small and convenient - and now there are flights to St Petersburg/Tampa & Orlando Florida and Las Vegas direct as well as to Cincinnati, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, and a few other hub locations. Small businesses do well in Fort Wayne - we seem to have a good enough economy in this vicinity that locally-owned restaurants and retailers do fare well against all the franchise and large corporate-owned businesses which Fort Wayne also has (we have everything you could want). There's also a brand new North East Indiana Small Business Development Center (SBDC) which opened up just last year to help support and encourage expansion of locally owned businesses.

Safety is a non-issue in Fort Wayne. Crime is low with the exception of a couple of streets in downtown. You can look up the stats online. Let me put it this way - crime is low enough that this city hosts festivals just about every other week in the summer time near downtown - and you never hear of problems. Speaking of festivals - indeed the summer months will not be boring for you; there's a lot going on every year - and everything is oriented towards families.

In terms of schools and even friendliness to home schoolers - no worries here. There are a good number of home-schooled kids, as well as great schools to attend. There are locally run parent groups - both geared towards preschoolers and older kids as well.

Then there are other things you didn't ask about...
The weather here has fewer extremes than the Boston Area --- overall, it is more moderate with more warm months, and when it is very cold or hot, it is usually short-lived. No hurricanes nor winter NorEasterns blow through here - you are just south enough to avoid Lake Effect snow. There are reports of occasional tornadoes, but the threat seems to be very mild. I've been here 7 years and not have seen one hit Fort Wayne - they tend to hit the more rural areas of Indiana when they do occur. I like the thunderstorms that blow through occasionally and don't worry about tornadoes at all (I "briefly" lived in the heart of tornado alley - and believe me, if there is someone who would be paranoid about them given reason, it would be me).

Cost of living in general is very low here. Taxes are nothing compared to MA overall - and the cost of real estate is just shocking to those of us from MA or NYC/Tri-state vicinities. For 150k you can get a 4br, 2/5 bath entry-level 2200 sq ft. McMansion. For 200k you can add a finished walk-out basement to a nice pond. For 250-350k you can get all that by a top quality builder in a neighborhood with a pool - and then there are neighborhoods and builders geared towards the 500k-to-million-plus price range. It is truly unbelievable - but all this can be had without living out in the boonies, and some friends of ours have actually made it a habit to build new houses & to move every few years - something you cannot do anywhere else I've lived. Likewise, the cost of insurance, is much lower here than in NY or MA - you'll enjoy paying a lot less for it.

There are a ton of other great features to Fort Wayne - such as the proximity to very large glacier-formed lakes which the locals spend their summer weekends at boating and water-skiing. There's also highway 69 which runs along the length (north to south) of the western side of Fort Wayne. This Highway takes you through Indianapolis (south) or up to Michigan and intersects with Interstate 90/80 (an east west route which you can take to Chicago or over to New York). The 69 is about to become a major North American trade & driving corridor from Mexico to Canada - construction has already begun in several states.

I've also posted other things in the past on Fort Wayne (check my posts from last year). There is truly a lot to offer. Good luck with your decision.
What a great post - I love it when people are enthusiastic about where they live. We live in Florida, but my DH is from Indiana (Muncie/Indy) and the other day I asked him where he thought the nicest cities were in Indiana, and he mentioned Ft. Wayne and Bloomington.

Your post made Ft. Wayne indeed sound like a very appealing town - I might like to visit there!

And, I know about that "curmudgeon" attitude - I see it a lot on the Florida forum! lol
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:55 PM
 
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I think you would be pleasantly surprised in Fort Wayne Indiana. Having lived in MA myself and now in Fort Wayne with my family, in my opinion this area has more to offer than any other in the North Eastern US I've lived within.

Medical care is excellent - with 4 hospitals, lots of great doctors, a large number of pediatricians and specialists. Since cost of living is low here, medical costs are as well.

The economy is doing well - others may state differently as there's a general curmudgeon attitude a lot of people on these boards have. The reality is that Ft Wayne has a brand new huge (and I am not exaggerating: very huge) main public library, a children's zoo I've never seen an equal to, a children's Science Museum, and more activities for families than I've ever seen anywhere else (too much to list here). The city is starting work on a brand new baseball park and market downtown, and there are not only excellent and affluent areas of expansion to the Southwest and Northwest sides of town, but there's effort and big dollars being spent to revitalize downtown (a new convention center followed by the library, and now the ballpark, market, and schools). The airport is small and convenient - and now there are flights to St Petersburg/Tampa & Orlando Florida and Las Vegas direct as well as to Cincinnati, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, and a few other hub locations. Small businesses do well in Fort Wayne - we seem to have a good enough economy in this vicinity that locally-owned restaurants and retailers do fare well against all the franchise and large corporate-owned businesses which Fort Wayne also has (we have everything you could want). There's also a brand new North East Indiana Small Business Development Center (SBDC) which opened up just last year to help support and encourage expansion of locally owned businesses.

Safety is a non-issue in Fort Wayne. Crime is low with the exception of a couple of streets in downtown. You can look up the stats online. Let me put it this way - crime is low enough that this city hosts festivals just about every other week in the summer time near downtown - and you never hear of problems. Speaking of festivals - indeed the summer months will not be boring for you; there's a lot going on every year - and everything is oriented towards families.

In terms of schools and even friendliness to home schoolers - no worries here. There are a good number of home-schooled kids, as well as great schools to attend. There are locally run parent groups - both geared towards preschoolers and older kids as well.

Then there are other things you didn't ask about...
The weather here has fewer extremes than the Boston Area --- overall, it is more moderate with more warm months, and when it is very cold or hot, it is usually short-lived. No hurricanes nor winter NorEasterns blow through here - you are just south enough to avoid Lake Effect snow. There are reports of occasional tornadoes, but the threat seems to be very mild. I've been here 7 years and not have seen one hit Fort Wayne - they tend to hit the more rural areas of Indiana when they do occur. I like the thunderstorms that blow through occasionally and don't worry about tornadoes at all (I "briefly" lived in the heart of tornado alley - and believe me, if there is someone who would be paranoid about them given reason, it would be me).

Cost of living in general is very low here. Taxes are nothing compared to MA overall - and the cost of real estate is just shocking to those of us from MA or NYC/Tri-state vicinities. For 150k you can get a 4br, 2/5 bath entry-level 2200 sq ft. McMansion. For 200k you can add a finished walk-out basement to a nice pond. For 250-350k you can get all that by a top quality builder in a neighborhood with a pool - and then there are neighborhoods and builders geared towards the 500k-to-million-plus price range. It is truly unbelievable - but all this can be had without living out in the boonies, and some friends of ours have actually made it a habit to build new houses & to move every few years - something you cannot do anywhere else I've lived. Likewise, the cost of insurance, is much lower here than in NY or MA - you'll enjoy paying a lot less for it.

There are a ton of other great features to Fort Wayne - such as the proximity to very large glacier-formed lakes which the locals spend their summer weekends at boating and water-skiing. There's also highway 69 which runs along the length (north to south) of the western side of Fort Wayne. This Highway takes you through Indianapolis (south) or up to Michigan and intersects with Interstate 90/80 (an east west route which you can take to Chicago or over to New York). The 69 is about to become a major North American trade & driving corridor from Mexico to Canada - construction has already begun in several states.

I've also posted other things in the past on Fort Wayne (check my posts from last year). There is truly a lot to offer. Good luck with your decision.
Wow! If you are not in sales you should be. What a great post, my wife and I read it a half hour ago and have been on realtor.com since.

Do you recommend any suburbs or just Fort Wayne proper?

Thanks for the info!

Dave
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:01 PM
 
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I met many homeschoolers when we lived in Hamilton County (Fishers, Carmel, Noblesville). The libraries all offer homeschool activities and library time. There are gyms too that offer homeschoolers activity time.

Healthcare is a nobrainer. Some of the finest hospitals are located in or near Indianapolis (Riley's, IU Med, St. Vincent). The economy isn't great for manufacturing, but it seems to be on the rebound somewhat. The Children's Museum of Indianapolis is beyond fabulous (my kids have taken classes there since they were 3). The zoo is pretty good. They just opened a shark touch tank and they have a butterfly exhibit every summer.

We just moved from Fishers to Columbus. Fishers is more suburban, while Columbus is not.

Here's a sheet on Indiana homeschooling ... hope it helps and hope to welcome your family to Indiana.

Indiana Homeschooling - A to Z Home's Cool

INDIANA FOUNDATION FOR HOME SCHOOLING, Local Support Groups (http://www.ifhsonline.org/localsupportgroups.htm - broken link)
Wonderful info! Thanks.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:12 PM
 
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Wink Leaving MA for Indiana

I would not HESITATE to leave "Taxachusetts" in favor of Indiana! I left MA & came to FL in 2001......we all know now what a mistake that was with all the insurance & tax mess! Had the chance to visit IN just outside of South Bend.....small towns like Bremen; Lakeville; Liberty. Lakeville is my absolute favorite (know a few people who've lived there all their lives). If you don't mind shoveling snow; warming up to all the great residents; & settling in for the peace and calm,....then take my advice & "get out of Dodge!"
I so want to leave FL; but I'm truly stuck until the real estate situation improves - talking about 1 - 2 yrs. Nope, I am NOT a happy camper.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:49 PM
 
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I grew up in Bremen ...
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