Right to work has passed! (Indianapolis: condo, unemployment, minimum wage)

[domergurl]

Originally Posted by Broadrippleguy

was the Newspaper smaller as you said?
Smaller companies could generally have smaller pay.
Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun Times are pretty big newspaper companies.
Also you have to consider Disposible income.
For example lets just use 100,000$ a year as a base.
if i move from Chicago to Indianapolis my cost of living drops 25% so if i made 100,000$ a year in Chicago i could make only 75,000 a year and sustain the same standard of living. But the average wage in Indianapolis is only 8% less than compared to Chicago.
Hence why i always look at DISPOSIBLE income over everything cause when you boil it down taxes deductions etc thats what matters cause thats what you take home.
Flordia probably has a lower cost of living than Chicago so that has to be taken into account too.
I personally use this website to consider the advantage of moving from X location to Y location. City of Indianapolis Cost of Living Calculator. Indiana--Indianapolis Relocation Calculator & Index.
Because it also considers average wage reduction or increase.

going from $21 an hour to $2.38 ... did you not read that????

Yea, those state legislators sure showed those 10%-ers a thing or three.

[Broadrippleguy]

Originally Posted by domergurl

going from $21 an hour to $2.38 ... did you not read that????

Yea, those state legislators sure showed those 10%-ers a thing or three.

2.38? holy **** was this in the 80s or were the *cheating* the minimum wage?
Thats unbelievable ouch unless this was in the 80s which was a different time we all know that i find that hard to believe cause we have minimum wage.
But then again someone or company finds a loophole somewhere.

[domergurl]

It remains to be seen how all of this will shake out. You'll always have employers who believe that you get what you pay for when it comes to paying workers a fair/living wage, but then there will be those that won't. Since union workers are in the minority, I'm not certain you will see a whole lot change other than the politicians using it as a talking point they they crushed union dominance over the stae of Indiana ...

[msamhunter]

Originally Posted by linicx

I refuse to take sides but I will tell you a real story. A few years ago when my mate and I were living in Chicago we did not like the Chicago winters. Mate's brother said come on down to Florida. You can find a job. My mate was a printer making close to $21/hr in a non-union shop. We trotted down to Florida - a right to work state. The best job mate could find was night shift manager at a small newspaper. The pay was a whopping $2.38/hr with no benefits. We returned to Illinois.

Here is some information I found on the RTW Law: Bad for Indiana - Why "Right to Work" is Bad for Indiana and Bad for Hoosiers! - Home

OK, that one is just hard to believe. He's not a waiter or anything like that so, his employer is bound by the same minimum wage law every other company in respective state is bound by which is 7.65 in Florida. Minimum wages for tipped jobs in FL, is 4.67 so how you come up with 2.38 is well beyond me.

[domergurl]

ok, so going from $21 to the minimum wage in FL is any better???

[edwardianlady]

Originally Posted by msamhunter

OK, that one is just hard to believe. He's not a waiter or anything like that so, his employer is bound by the same minimum wage law every other company in respective state is bound by which is 7.65 in Florida. Minimum wages for tipped jobs in FL, is 4.67 so how you come up with 2.38 is well beyond me.

I reread that comment and in nowhere did the poster say what year that this incident even took place .

[msamhunter]

Originally Posted by edwardianlady

I reread that comment and in nowhere did the poster say what year that this incident even took place .

I refuse to take sides but I will tell you a real story. A few years ago when my mate and I were living in Chicago we did not like the Chicago winters. Mate's brother said come on down to Florida. You can find a job. My mate was a printer making close to $21/hr in a non-union shop. We trotted down to Florida - a right to work state. The best job mate could find was night shift manager at a small newspaper. The pay was a whopping $2.38/hr with no benefits. We returned to Illinois.

Yes he did. Now I'm sure it was a typo as for a United States citizen, that wage just cannot legally be that low in the union. He probably meant 12.38/hr which is believable depending on where in Florida and how large small the newspaper is. I'm sure it wasn't the Herald looking at the wage which should still be a slightly lower rate than Chicago due to COL just being cheaper down there. For a small town newspaper, yes it can get that low no matter where you are.

[edwardianlady]

Originally Posted by msamhunter

Yes he did. Now I'm sure it was a typo as for a United States citizen, that wage just cannot legally be that low in the union. He probably meant 12.38/hr which is believable depending on where in Florida and how large small the newspaper is. I'm sure it wasn't the Herald looking at the wage which should still be a slightly lower rate than Chicago due to COL just being cheaper down there. For a small town newspaper, yes it can get that low no matter where you are.

No,he didn't .He said it was a few years ago ,what was 5 or 10 years ago .As for the wage ,yes you can have wages that low though all I can think is waitress .A friend made a very similiar wage on the hour.Most of the rest of her salary was made in tips .

[fallingwater]

RTW does not produce more jobs. Stop listening to junk science.

Working hard to make Indiana look bad: The tortured, uphill case for ‘right-to-work’ | Economic Policy Institute

[indy_317]

RTW wont' produce more jobs. Jobs are gone for the most part. Wouldn't surprise me to see even more stuff shipped overseas or down to Mexico. If oil goes up to a price where ocean shipping is just too costly and slow, then we will see production moved back to Mexico or other lower income Latin America countries. However, if Mexico finally breaks out into a full civil war, production would finally come back to the US. However, if production costs are higher for simple "push this button, pull that lever" factory work, enviro reg costs, 40 hour work week, etc.., then expect prices to rise for consumers.

The problem with this country is that the cost to live life, which to me isn't a new car every three years, or a $2,000 per person vacation every year, or being able to afford cable, or even an 50" HDTV. Life is simply being able to afford a good shelter (home), food, water, and since we are in the snow belt, heat. Government and greedy business practices have ruined everything. $10/hour jobs would be fine if housing costs reduced to the early 80s prices (when my folks paid just $60K for a 1/2 acre, 2,000 sq ft, two car attached garage, all stone home in a good school district).