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Old 07-20-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Hello

Just wondering, are these schools roughly on the same plane when it comes to academic excellence?

Thanks!
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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Okay, thanks. If you could offer more details, I would appreciate it.

I was just thinking that, for example, U of Michigan and Michigan State are roughly on par (right?), so I thought the same might be true for these Indiana schools.

The reason I ask is because there's a school in Canada where I reside that offers a joint BSC degree with Indiana State. I was just wondering how it measured up with the more prestigious University of Indiana.

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Old 07-20-2012, 10:35 PM
 
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Hello!

I'm actually new to Indiana myself. I came here for school. Right now I am attending IUPUI which is a joint campus venture between Indiana University & Purdue at Indianapolis. Indiana has great schools (and great prices). The top three I believe would be Notre Dame, IU, and Purdue. There are a few great private colleges like Indianapolis University and Butler, and state-run like Ball State.

Wiki seems to think highly of Indiana State University, but honestly I haven't heard much about it. It seems like a nice college. My guess would be is that it has a good reputation, but just not the notoriety of the top 3 I mentioned. Here is a ranking of Indiana colleges (I'm not sure of the criteria for ranking, so you might want to research).

Indiana University Rankings

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Old 07-21-2012, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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If you ask a U of M grad if they are on par with MSU, you will get a wolverine sized boot in the rear end.

ISU is the forgotten state school and I think it's their own fault. They have good programs, but they aren't good about marketing their strengths.

IU and Purdue, given that they are Big 10 schools, have a much more national reputation that ISU doesn't have. IU has more professional schools as well (Medicine and Law). Don't forget, ISU started out as a teacher's college.

I guess it would depend on the program you wish to study and how much you can afford. I believe ISU is cheaper than IU.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Des Moines Metro
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If you know what you want to study, you might check with the job networks now to see if where your degree is from will make a difference. In some cases, just having a BA/BS from a state school is fine. In others, being from ___ (fill in the blank) opens doors, either because the program is well respected or employers are from those schools and hire grads from there. There are also a few colleges that have a very bad rep, so it's not good to be from there. I won't name names, but anything labeled "a party school" can be problematic.

As for the U of M / MSU question, MSU is originally a land-grant ag college. Getting a degree in soil or crop science from there carries more weight than getting it from U of M (if they had that program). Otherwise, the U of M name garners more respect overall in more corners. One would find that out from talking with potential employers.

If I were sending a youngster to school right now, I would aim for a lower cost state college, first doing two years in a community college (after checking to see that **all** classes will transfer). The cost of higher ed doesn't justify certain degrees these days, in my opinion, and for something like becoming a high school math teacher, Indiana State would be just fine and cheaper than U of I.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Irvington, Indianapolis
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Having attended ISU, it always amazes me how many citizens of Indiana don't know it exists. In fact, it is more well known abroad than it is in its own state. Most of the student population seems to come from the immediate Terre Haute/Southern Illinois area or the other side of the planet. Every time I was home from college (originally from northern Indiana) and would tell someone I went to ISU, they would assume I meant IU Bloomington. They were either disappointed or completely confused when I explained that I went to Indiana STATE University. Hell, a lot of people think Larry Bird went to IU. It also frustrates me (and every other ISU alum that lives in Indy) that the Indianapolis Star doesn't list anything to do with ISU in the sports section and when they do, it is usually grouped in with the liberal arts colleges.

ISU is an outstanding school for anyone going into education, music education, music/business, avionics, package design, criminology, insurance, physical therapy, and sports medicine. They are really good at several other things, but the strengths are what I listed. The school is an excellent value and the education I received was top notch. This is confirmed every time I explain something to a Ball State graduate....
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: B-town
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ArthurIndy,

No offense but you are a little to high on ISU.

Sure, maybe 50 years ago ISU was okay in Education but to think that IU and ISU are even in the same ballpark is crazy.

IU has one of the 20 best Education programs in the entire country. Their Elementary Education program is one of the top 10 in the country. If you go to ISU for an education degree you will highly regret it.

I've heard to many horror stories from people that have attended and graduated from ISU. Sure, if it was only 2-3 then you don't pay attention. When it's 30-40 then yeah you listen.

IU isn't much more cost wise then ISU and it will pay off in the long run.

I don't see many Teachers getting jobs with a degree from ISU, I'm just saying.
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:29 PM
 
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Employers seem to gravitate toward graduates of the schools they went to. There are more management professionals from IU than ISU ...
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Hello

Just wondering, are these schools roughly on the same plane when it comes to academic excellence?

Thanks!
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Okay, thanks. If you could offer more details, I would appreciate it.

I was just thinking that, for example, U of Michigan and Michigan State are roughly on par (right?), so I thought the same might be true for these Indiana schools.

The reason I ask is because there's a school in Canada where I reside that offers a joint BSC degree with Indiana State. I was just wondering how it measured up with the more prestigious University of Indiana.

Thanks!
It is called Indiana University, not University of Indiana.
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