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Old 12-14-2009, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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I would definitely suggest living on the Michigan side of the border as opposed to Indiana (where Granger and Madison twp. are located). Michiana, New Buffalo, Berrien Springs, Niles, and Edwardsburg are all great areas within 25-30 minutes of South Bend. Don't go to Granger unless you like pretentiously-named gated subdivisions full of cookie-cutter McMansions, as well as a myriad of strip malls.
oh give me a break. you can count the number of these so called pretentious mcmansion gated communities on one hand. It's cheaper to live on the indiana side. not aware of such things you deride in madison twp either. love michigan all you want, but don't start spewing bs about our hoosier state. i suggest the person visit both sides of the state line.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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oh give me a break. you can count the number of these so called pretentious mcmansion gated communities on one hand. It's cheaper to live on the indiana side. not aware of such things you deride in madison twp either. love michigan all you want, but don't start spewing bs about our hoosier state. i suggest the person visit both sides of the state line.
I spoke of Granger being filled with the faux-pretentious McMansions, not Madison Twp. which is more rural. And yes, Granger is FILLED with subdivisions: there are dozens of subdivisions in Granger. The vast majority of housing in Granger is found in subdivisions, and yes, several of them are gated.

Also, I would disagree that it is significantly cheaper to live in Indiana. While property tax is higher in MI, sales tax is lower. The cost of living works out to be about the same, maybe slightly cheaper in Indiana.

I'm not trying to spew BS about Indiana. I do vastly prefer Michigan, and I suggested some areas in Michigan, which is the area the poster stated that they wanted more info on.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Hi,
My husband is due to start work in the South Bend area shortly and we are unfamiliar with the area. We have been advised to move to the Granger area but viewing your posts and house prices I am not completely convinced (especially as, will there be a resell value...if the general area around it is deteriorating?)
Also I am keen to have a horse or three But am on a budget (max of 400,000 ..perhaps!) Is it possible to be in a relatively good area with acreage, a great public school and affordable prices or am I asking the impossible?!

The alternatives that I am looking at are Michiana, New Buffalo, Berrien Springs.. Any good advise would really be appreciated.

Thanks.
Also, if you're looking for rural, you'll find plenty of it around Niles, Michiana, New Buffalo, and Berrien Springs. Plenty of places for horses around there. The city of Michiana itself is very nice, but very upper class. It has a lot of older, established, beautiful homes, and it is right on the beach. New Buffalo is very touristy. Berrien Springs and Niles are more down to earth, but still very safe and livable.

Housing prices are falling everywhere, and Michigan is no exception. Michiana would probably be your best bet for a stable housing price, as it is a very established are with few new homes.
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Old 12-14-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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I spoke of Granger being filled with the faux-pretentious McMansions, not Madison Twp. which is more rural. And yes, Granger is FILLED with subdivisions: there are dozens of subdivisions in Granger. The vast majority of housing in Granger is found in subdivisions, and yes, several of them are gated.

Also, I would disagree that it is significantly cheaper to live in Indiana. While property tax is higher in MI, sales tax is lower. The cost of living works out to be about the same, maybe slightly cheaper in Indiana.

I'm not trying to spew BS about Indiana. I do vastly prefer Michigan, and I suggested some areas in Michigan, which is the area the poster stated that they wanted more info on.
no gated communities in michigan then ... look, I'm just tired of people ginning up reasons not to live in one area over another. Ok, we get it, you don't like Indiana, that's your bottom line ... woop dee doo. But i wouldn't tell someone "don't move to michigan because ...." and then proceed to cast false aspersions which are really your personal reasons. And who cares anyway? Gated communities and mcmansions never entered into my lexicon, nor would it for a lot of people, as a reason not to move to a particular community. I've yet to run into someone who comes on this forum specifically stating 'i don't want to live anywhere in Indiana where there are gated communities". Vinyl villages? yea ... but you seem to have a "thing" ... This person wants land anyway, so why would you even mention gated communities? I see many horse farms with gates ... does that mean they're pretentious?
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:52 AM
 
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"Is it possible to be in a relatively good area with acreage, a great public school and affordable prices or am I asking the impossible?!"

Absolutely. Not sure where you live now, but $400K goes a LONG way here. But I would also encourage you to exhaust the Indiana possibilities before jumping the border. Most of the retail, recreation, and restaurant options are in South Bend, Mishawaka, or Granger, as are most of the private schools if you end up choosing that option. There is not much traffic to speak of here, but driving 20 miles to the mall may get old, especially in February. The poster who thinks that Granger is pretentious has clearly never lived in a truly wealthy area -- most of Granger is very middle-class, with mostly mid-range subdivisions, some high-end neighborhoods and lots of rural pockets.

As for acreage and horses, there is what our kids call "the llama farm" around the corner from my house (and less than two miles from the mall).
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Hither and thither
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Housing prices are falling everywhere, and Michigan is no exception. Michiana would probably be your best bet for a stable housing price, as it is a very established are with few new homes.
Michigan, no exception to falling housing prices? Actually Michigan is probably worse than anywhere else in the country! Aren't there homes in Detroit these days that are selling for less than cars?

You've offered some thoughful input, but you've also shown a clear anti-Indiana bias. I don't believe for a minute that the suburban areas of Michiana on the Michigan side are particularly different from those on the Indiana side.

I'll concede that Michigan has lots of wonderful lakefront towns--after all, the state has lots of wonderful lakefront. But it also has places like Benton Harbor, and nearly all the state's major cities are actually in WORSE shape than South Bend.

Obviously you're entitled to your opinions, but even the only moderately informed readers such as myself could see your bias pretty easily.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:02 AM
 
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Hi All,

Thanks, I didn't mean to start a fight and I will obsessively research before investing in anything. I am just worried, I guess like most, of getting caught up in a very long mortgage situation in a less than desirable place. I can be fairly content with the company of animals as they can cause less headache than neighbors however my husband prefers the conveniences of living close to the town. (South Bend) The real decision maker at the end of the day, will be the schools. Are the Magnet programs any good, or is it not worth thinking about due to safety/security issues?
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:02 PM
 
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"Is it possible to be in a relatively good area with acreage, a great public school and affordable prices or am I asking the impossible?!"

Absolutely. Not sure where you live now, but $400K goes a LONG way here. But I would also encourage you to exhaust the Indiana possibilities before jumping the border. Most of the retail, recreation, and restaurant options are in South Bend, Mishawaka, or Granger, as are most of the private schools if you end up choosing that option. There is not much traffic to speak of here, but driving 20 miles to the mall may get old, especially in February. The poster who thinks that Granger is pretentious has clearly never lived in a truly wealthy area -- most of Granger is very middle-class, with mostly mid-range subdivisions, some high-end neighborhoods and lots of rural pockets.

As for acreage and horses, there is what our kids call "the llama farm" around the corner from my house (and less than two miles from the mall).
Excellent post. I live in Granger and I am defiantly NOT wealthy. I actually do not know of any gated communities in Granger. Maybe somewhere off Adams road? I saw a large sub that has million dollar homes but the majority of subs in and around Granger are well below the million dollar mark. The Granger talk really makes me chuckle. I guess because I have lived in other places that have TRULY wealthy areas. I think some people need to travel more.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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Oh and Happy Holidays!
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Old 12-30-2009, 04:53 AM
 
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Default Public versus Private schools

Hi,
I attended both private and public schools as a child and actually found the public to be more gratifying, especially as it was a Magnet school.

However I know times may have changed as this was quite a few years ago..ahem.. and things may be different depending on the area. SO, any opinions on the particular schools, per say private, public, magnet in the Indiana- specifically South Bend area.
For example
LaSalle Intermediate Academy

Adams High school (as my firstborn would be heading there next I guess, if we end up living in SB)
Are there any others with an IB programme?

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