NORDSTROM at Circle Center mall Closing! (Lafayette, Carmel: apartment complex, houses, school district)

[sunnyandcloudydays]

Originally Posted by prairiestate

It will never happen. If you were to visit one, they require custom built stores that include a large warehouse. In addition, Ikea is extremely picky about site selection. It took them nearly a decade to find just the right site in the Denver area. They aren't going to wooed by a developer, even one as large as Simon.

ikea does always seem to be in suburbia
they do need vast amounts of room and huge parking areas
if i remember correct the ikea in bb has a land for cars to back up and pick up the merchandise.
but who knows meijer and target have both downsized their foot print for city areas maybe it is a trend that will go ikeas way too

[Northwest Indiana]

Originally Posted by sunnyandcloudydays

ikea does always seem to be in suburbia
they do need vast amounts of room and huge parking areas
if i remember correct the ikea in bb has a land for cars to back up and pick up the merchandise.
but who knows meijer and target have both downsized their foot print for city areas maybe it is a trend that will go ikeas way too

Theoretically, it could work. But if Ikea were to do that, they would have already made a press release about trying a new store concept (just as JC Penney and Macy's made press releases about their new strip center/lifestyle store concepts)...Also, they would most likely start in a more progressive (in terms of design) city like Portland, Seattle, Austin, or even Chicago and NY.

[sunnyandcloudydays]

Originally Posted by Northwest Indiana

Theoretically, it could work. But if Ikea were to do that, they would have already made a press release about trying a new store concept (just as JC Penney and Macy's made press releases about their new strip center/lifestyle store concepts)...Also, they would most likely start in a more progressive (in terms of design) city like Portland, Seattle, Austin, or even Chicago and NY.

agree with you totally nwi i was just typing and thinking
and while we are on that subject ikea being an euoro based biz
you would think they would not have such a large store

[Northwest Indiana]

Originally Posted by sunnyandcloudydays

agree with you totally nwi i was just typing and thinking
and while we are on that subject ikea being an euoro based biz
you would think they would not have such a large store

True, but the store is pretty large because they have a half warehouse/half showroom store model. This way, they can operate less storefronts (which is more efficient).

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by chalcedony

While I'd agree with you that Greenwood city limits is mostly lower middle class (in other words, solidly middle of the middle), I'm baffled at how you'd come to the conclusion that it is in decline. Granted, it's not 105% white like it used to be, but it seems to be pretty darn stable to me. Greenwood Park Mall is, if anything, a bit ritzier than it was in the 1990s. The idea of a Coach or Sephora or White House/Black Market (or a Cheesecake Factory, for that matter) would have been unthinkable for the south side 15 years ago.

I personally don't really appreciate the fact that you choose to say that Greenwood's percentage of white residents has any part to do with its level of class. Carmel is less white than Greenwood and a whole lot wealthier. And before people say Carmel is more diverse than Greenwood because of Indians and Asians, it also has more blacks than Greenwood.

And I'm not really saying that it's a racist comment at all, I just think it perpetuates a negative stereotype that the whiter the city, the better, safer, and wealthier it is.

[Northwest Indiana]

Originally Posted by wh15395

I personally don't really appreciate the fact that you choose to say that Greenwood's percentage of white residents has any part to do with its level of class. Carmel is less white than Greenwood and a whole lot wealthier. And before people say Carmel is more diverse than Greenwood because of Indians and Asians, it also has more blacks than Greenwood.

And I'm not really saying that it's a racist comment at all, I just think it perpetuates a negative stereotype that the whiter the city, the better, safer, and wealthier it is.

I think that "chalcedony" was not implying that a city has to be White in order to be stable...I think he/she was just bringing up the fact that the vast majority of people BELIEVE that Greenwood may have gone downhill due to some "diversification" (hence why they sarcastically put 105%). In other words, it was probably a response to another post and nothing more.

[wh15395]

Originally Posted by Northwest Indiana

I think that "chalcedony" was not implying that a city has to be White in order to be stable...I think he/she was just bringing up the fact that the vast majority of people BELIEVE that Greenwood may have gone downhill due to some "diversification" (hence why they sarcastically put 105%). In other words, it was probably a response to another post and nothing more.

Yeah, I agree. I also thought it may have read that way. I wasn't really speaking about her/him personally, just the thought that many people view "diversification" as causing communities to go downhill.

[Northwest Indiana]

Originally Posted by wh15395

Yeah, I agree. I also thought it may have read that way. I wasn't really speaking about her/him personally, just the thought that many people view "diversification" as causing communities to go downhill.

Alright, I understand.

[chalcedony]

Originally Posted by Northwest Indiana

I think that "chalcedony" was not implying that a city has to be White in order to be stable...I think he/she was just bringing up the fact that the vast majority of people BELIEVE that Greenwood may have gone downhill due to some "diversification" (hence why they sarcastically put 105%). In other words, it was probably a response to another post and nothing more.

Bingo. I can't think of any other reason why the person from whom I originally quoted would imply that Greenwood is going downhill. It is definitely more diverse than it used to be, but it still seems to be thriving. So why would someone suggest it is in decline?

[Northwest Indiana]

Originally Posted by chalcedony

Bingo. I can't think of any other reason why the person from whom I originally quoted would imply that Greenwood is going downhill. It is definitely more diverse than it used to be, but it still seems to be thriving. So why would someone suggest it is in decline?

They would suggest that because every place that isn't Carmel or Zionsville is declining! Duh!

On a more serious note, a couple classmates I had have stated that while the Greenwood area as a whole is not going downhill, there seems to be major class warfare between residents in the "Center Grove HS" attendance area and the "Greenwood Community HS" attendance area. Those in the GCHS area were referred to as "trashy" and those in the CGHS area were "classy" (according to what I was told). Also, I guess it was not uncommon for people to move from GCHS to CGHS because the latter district is better? That is all I know about that. So maybe it is a within-town issue? I don't know much about the south suburbs of Indy as most of the people I know are from the north suburbs or west suburbs of Indy.

Regardless, I find it hard to believe that an area with a Cheesecake Factory and an above average mall is really going downhill