Are We Ready for Super Bowl 46? (Indianapolis, Fishers: refinance, house, good schools)
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I agree that his comment is BS, but I don't see evidence that Kennedy winning would stop all of the progress. I would think that improving schools and mass transit (although I haven't seen her advocate for it) would help these areas substantially.
The problem is she can't do much with education. The education issue is 90% a family/home issue. You can't take a kid out of a broken home for nine hours a day, five days a week, for around nine months and expect miracles. You can throw another billion dollars at this problem and it won't work, so long as that kid lives in that toxic environment as they do now.
Mass transit is mass expensive, and people are tapped out. You may get folks from Indy to vote for it, but I think even Hamilton County is iffy. You have Noblesville and Fishers getting the main benefit (the rail line), but Carmel and Westfield get nothing. It would be interesting to see how the vote would go. Any regional tax is DOA. The surrounding counties have tossed in over a billion dollars for downtown Indy. Indy leaders had a choice: Mass transit or a new stadium/convention center. They choose the stadium. I doubt someone from Shelbyville really wants to pay even more money so someone in Fishers can ride a rail train to downtown Indy.
The problem is she can't do much with education. The education issue is 90% a family/home issue. You can't take a kid out of a broken home for nine hours a day, five days a week, for around nine months and expect miracles. You can throw another billion dollars at this problem and it won't work, so long as that kid lives in that toxic environment as they do now.
Mass transit is mass expensive, and people are tapped out. You may get folks from Indy to vote for it, but I think even Hamilton County is iffy. You have Noblesville and Fishers getting the main benefit (the rail line), but Carmel and Westfield get nothing. It would be interesting to see how the vote would go. Any regional tax is DOA. The surrounding counties have tossed in over a billion dollars for downtown Indy. Indy leaders had a choice: Mass transit or a new stadium/convention center. They choose the stadium. I doubt someone from Shelbyville really wants to pay even more money so someone in Fishers can ride a rail train to downtown Indy.
correct education is only as good as the families that hold their kids accountable.
The problem is she can't do much with education. The education issue is 90% a family/home issue. You can't take a kid out of a broken home for nine hours a day, five days a week, for around nine months and expect miracles. You can throw another billion dollars at this problem and it won't work, so long as that kid lives in that toxic environment as they do now.
Mass transit is mass expensive, and people are tapped out. You may get folks from Indy to vote for it, but I think even Hamilton County is iffy. You have Noblesville and Fishers getting the main benefit (the rail line), but Carmel and Westfield get nothing. It would be interesting to see how the vote would go. Any regional tax is DOA. The surrounding counties have tossed in over a billion dollars for downtown Indy. Indy leaders had a choice: Mass transit or a new stadium/convention center. They choose the stadium. I doubt someone from Shelbyville really wants to pay even more money so someone in Fishers can ride a rail train to downtown Indy.
I agree mostly with your view on education, but there are steps that can be taken to substantially improve test results. As for mass transit, I agree that Hamilton County is iffy. Carmel and Westfield actually would get busses, so that isn't exactly nothing, but I would be more worried about places in Northern Hamilton County blocking it. And this may sound crazy, but with the way Carmel spends money, it wouldn't shock me if the city somehow did some kind of partnership with Indianapolis to build rail to Carmel without needing a referendum to raise taxes.
Ever have a job where everything is a mess, completely unorganized, the workplace is filthy, nasty, disgusting.....But then Corporate announces they are coming for a visit so everybody puts on their big fake smiles and the whole company spends the entire week just cleaning and making everything look artificially nice for the big wigs?
Thats all Indy is doing, and it is costing us alot of money.
Ever have a job where everything is a mess, completely unorganized, the workplace is filthy, nasty, disgusting.....But then Corporate announces they are coming for a visit so everybody puts on their big fake smiles and the whole company spends the entire week just cleaning and making everything look artificially nice for the big wigs?
Thats all Indy is doing, and it is costing us alot of money.
How so? You referenced the "ghetto areas" to which I assume you are referring to the near-east side. St. Clair Place is the name of the neighborhood that has been the focus of the housing project. There are some nice houses being built down there. Long term, it is up to the home owners to keep the area up. However, there are some good folks moving in there. Time will tell.
I do like that there are a lot of under the radar type things happening on the near-east side. The majority of people are blissfully unaware of some of the things happening on the near-eastside. Will this lead to long-term change? You don't know and I don't know. I will say that it is exciting to see some of the things happening down here. I know the neighborhood leaders down here, and I think things are moving in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by timothyaw
That or a seat on the IVCA board No matter how much cheering you do, this will ALWAYS be NAPTOWN. A dreary, boring, bible thumping wasteland.
Bible thumping? Sounds like you are running with the wrong crowd.
Tim if Indy is so bad, why r u here? No one forces you to live in Indianapolis, personally, I think you're more than likely just a boring person but I digress.
Two things, education, the mayor has no say over public education nor should they. How will it look putting so much focus and dollars into IPS when Indianapolis has 8 public school systems. Do you ignore the other 7 and if you did, I'm sure the other 7 would scream to Montana and back about how unfair it is and they would have a right to do so. Obviously the city can't pump mass dollars into 8 school districts. It would go completely broke doing it. Unless they are willing to combine all 8 into one district (that's ain't happening) then the mayor should stay out of it, seeing as how the council would have to approve such a measure anyway.
2nd, Mass Transit is a must and it's up to the legislature to get off their butts and come up with a funding solution so the voters will have a referendum to vote on. Regardless of whether or not Carmel wanted to help pay, they don't have that kind of money. It's going to be a multiple community effort with generating the funds to build it and also generating the funds to maintain it. One of the knocks I see with Indy is while the leadership thinks big and trying to become more global, the residents at times don't seem to want that.
That or a seat on the IVCA board No matter how much cheering you do, this will ALWAYS be NAPTOWN. A dreary, boring, bible thumping wasteland.
Hmmmmm. If that's the case my husband would flat out refuse to move to such a place. He can't stand bible thumpers, but that's for another thread. Since we have been hearing nothing but good things out of the mouths of people that have visited Indy the past few months (and they are from all over like Ontario Canada, Memphis, and Houston just to name a few), I have to conclude your judgement is a bit flawed.
That or a seat on the IVCA board No matter how much cheering you do, this will ALWAYS be NAPTOWN. A dreary, boring, bible thumping wasteland.
If you hate Indy so much leave and go on unemployment Stop Bit**ing its really getting old and i wonder why you don't get respect from people in Indy........ Its called you get in what you put out if you treat everyone like Crap youll get that in return. Hoosier Hospitality is not a hard concept: Treat Others the way you want to be treated and youll make friends.
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No matter how much cheering you do, this will ALWAYS be NAPTOWN. A dreary, boring, bible thumping wasteland.
