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"A score above 60 on the dissimilarity index is considered very high segregation. 22 metropolitan areas crossed this threshold."
How does KC score on this study? I can't find the data.
its just some biased Internet Jocky list
Kansas city is just showing its more and more pathetic in my eyes cause as you said it has to trash talk and try to bring other cities down to bring itself up.
Thats like bullying and i don't support that garbage.
So its final Kansas city goes on my never going to visit that place list
Also at this rate i might just put Kansas city on my list for when i run for Mayor of Indianapolis of cities to bring jobs over from
its just some biased Internet Jocky list
Kansas city is just showing its more and more pathetic in my eyes cause as you said it has to trash talk and try to bring other cities down to bring itself up.
Thats like bullying and i don't support that garbage.
So its final Kansas city goes on my never going to visit that place list
Also at this rate i might just put Kansas city on my list for when i run for Mayor of Indianapolis of cities to bring jobs over from
That Wisconsin study that you posted does seem to indicate that the minority population is more spread out throughout the area albeit probably in smaller concentrations than other cities. That does seem to support the comment that Indy is the least segregated city in the north.
I do know this. I rarely if ever heard any racist comments from whites towards blacks or vice versa or anti semitic comments during my time in Indy or on subsequent visits over the years. In Kansas City I hear these kind of comments frequently, year after year.
I would not throw out the baby with the bathwater where visiting the KC area is concerned. As a place to live, yes indeed they can have it and I would not recommend it to most people. The negative attitude and constant "projecting" towards people that behave differently than the herd here is alarming and cause for concern. And the sleazy behavior and constant lying, thieving and backstabbing that goes on among supposed friends or with co workers is disturbing. The people have major problems with people that don't conform to their lifestyles.
But... The place is worth a weekend to experience the great BBQ restaurants and also some decent Mexican restaurants and Steak Houses. And there are some good museums worth seeing. Not much else other than that appeals to me about this area.
That Wisconsin study that you posted does seem to indicate that the minority population is more spread out throughout the area albeit probably in smaller concentrations than other cities. That does seem to support the comment that Indy is the least segregated city in the north.
I do know this. I rarely if ever heard any racist comments from whites towards blacks or vice versa or anti semitic comments during my time in Indy or on subsequent visits over the years. In Kansas City I hear these kind of comments frequently, year after year.
I would not throw out the baby with the bathwater where visiting the KC area is concerned. As a place to live, yes indeed they can have it and I would not recommend it to most people. The negative attitude and constant "projecting" towards people that behave differently than the herd here is alarming and cause for concern. And the sleazy behavior and constant lying, thieving and backstabbing that goes on among supposed friends or with co workers is disturbing. The people have major problems with people that don't conform to their lifestyles.
But... The place is worth a weekend to experience the great BBQ restaurants and also some decent Mexican restaurants and Steak Houses. And there are some good museums worth seeing. Not much else other than that appeals to me about this area.
Indianapolis has all that.
St. Elmo's Steakhouse
Harry and Izzy's
Plus theres some mexican resturants downtown.
Really would not miss out on anything if i replaced kansas city with Indy.
This list includes smaller metros, as well, so KC and Indy both skew a couple ranks lower (16th and 39th). There's a link to the full list at the bottom of the post.
Wow, I feel so important that I'm so well known by the Indy people!
First off, you guys have no idea how hard I can be on KC. It's far from paradise and I **** people off in the KC forums on a rather regular basis for telling it like it is. I will talk up kc, but I'm also quite vocal about its downfalls.
As far as comparing Indy to KC. What is the big deal if I like KC better than Indy? I have said many times I don't dislike Indy. I just think KC feels like a larger, more established and urban city. It has more of the things "I'm" interested in. I think MLB is a far more popular league than the NBA and I'm much more into MLB. There is something about sitting out at Kauffman stadium on a summer night with my kids or friends and watching the a baseball game. The Royals have sucked for a while, but they are still fun to watch and they have a lot of fans. Weekend games regularly draw 25-35k. As bad as the Royals are, they are a major regional draw and pull in a lot of tourists just as all MLB teams do. I don't think NBA or NHL is on that same level.
I don't live in KC, but we still go to 10-20 MLB games a year in various cities. I think a major league ballpark is a really cool way to spend time with family and friends and is a great way to take in a city. If you like NBA fine! Also, MLB cities are the biggest cities in pro sports. It takes a very large metro area to support MLB and KC struggles with its size to support MLB, so I doubt that Indy could, especially with no pro baseball history there.
I also think KC has a stronger arts scene, slightly better museums and more general attractions from casinos to amusement parks.
But there are things I like more about Indy. The riverwalk through downtown is vibrant and active. You have really put all of your attractions in a compact area that is walkable and you proved that you can host world class events with your amazingly well done job with the superbowl and other huge events like the Indy 500, final fours etc. You are on the same page. You needed a convention hotel, so you built one. You needed a new airport terminal so you built one. KC loves to study things and is generally very conservative about aggressively investing in the city. It takes FOREVER for KC to get things done and the state line in KC is just terrible. Also, there is a lot of anti city mentality in metro KC. You fit in well in KC if you like to rip on everything kcmo. While kcmo has issues, the general lack of civic pride (and often a lot of actual hate, mostly from ks side people) toward the city is undeserved and annoying. I don't know why this is the case in kc.
Indy is catching up to KC though and I'm personally not threatened by that. I love cities and love it when a city changes my opinion of it because that just means it's improving.
But so is KC, so I'm not sure Indy will ever completely close the gap. But in the grand scheme of things. They are more similar than different. Both are large 2 million people metro areas that are trying to find their way and identity. KC will always be viewed as smaller and less desirable than Indy because KC is associated with all the stereotypes of "kansas". That's the main reason I'm so pro KC because so few people have any idea what KC is like.
As far as people, I think they are about the same everywhere as far as friendliness. Sometimes it's just more reserved. For example here in DC people on the subway seem rude, but those same people are probably friendly at your local grocery store or as your neighbor. This country is so transient that most large cities have people from all over the place.
But again. It's okay to like one city over the other. This is a free country.
Smart move to post this in the Indy forum. Keeps it pretty one sided .
I can certainly understand preferring either one or the other, KC or Indy.
I prefer KC for some pretty specific reasons: proximity to the Flint Hills, the Sand Hills and the Ozarks, better, more diverse hunting opportunities, what I consider better cultural attractions (museums, art, music), better dining options, more of the kind of urban neighborhoods I prefer, baseball, topography, etc.
I'm sure there are a million reasons one might prefer Indy, too. But I cannot for the life of me imagine liking one and hating the other, since they are more or less the same kinds of cities, with the same midwestern cultural traditions, flaws and all.
KCMO. People are not the same everywhere. There are regional differences borne out of the way the earlier generations developed a given area. Immigrants shaped this country and different cultures from different countries shaped different areas that sometimes mirrors their home country minus the language issue. Obviously most immigrants learned English after moving to the USA in past generations.
I've lived in ten different states and in some cases more than one community or area within a state. The kind of issues I've had with the people in the KC region or should I say, their problems with me as well as the sheer number and magnitude of these problems will not turn me into a believer that "people are the same everywhere". If that were the case I would have the same issues over and over again in EVERY place I've lived. That has not been the case.
I posted this thread here because to be blunt, I am sick of the way some people hijack threads in this particular forum that have NOTHING to do with Kansas City and inject that subject into the conversation. And the near constant bashing of Indy by those people should be addressed in a single thread where the instigators can be taken to task by the people in Indy and anyone else that happens to think Indy is an OK place.
KCMO. People are not the same everywhere. There are regional differences borne out of the way the earlier generations developed a given area.
People may not be the same everywhere, but they are the same in Indianapolis and Kansas City (and Cincy and Columbus and St Louis and Cleveland and Minneapolis, etc.).
If you've had a hard time getting along with the majority of people you meet in what is by most accounts a very average (like, average to a fault) metro of 2 million people, I think it's not them, it's you.
Especially based on what you've written in this thread.
People may not be the same everywhere, but they are the same in Indianapolis and Kansas City (and Cincy and Columbus and St Louis and Cleveland and Minneapolis, etc.).
If you've had a hard time getting along with the majority of people you meet in what is by most accounts a very average (like, average to a fault) metro of 2 million people, I think it's not them, it's you. Nice blanket statement claiming that every major metro area in the Midwest is alike.
Especially based on what you've written in this thread.
Yup. Well, I didn't have these issues in Indy. Minor issues there mostly.
I never had an attitude towards KC at the start. But after being bullied repeatedly, having people accuse me of doing things including crimes that I have not committed and then having death threats and road rage incidents where people tried to pick fights with me I decided I was not the one with the problem.
Just recently I took my car to a local place to get new tires. They put on the tires and inflated them to 60 psi when they should be at 30 psi. Obviously this was no accident. Another place I used to take my car to probably hosed my car because shortly after I started to take it there the idiot light went on and the car ran poorly. The last time in that place the jerk put a rag into my crankcase instead of the oil cap.
That my friend is just the tip of the iceberg of the kinds of problems that I've had here in the KC area. This is not the right place to air them out.
I'm the one with the problem? Nope. These people are addle brained, weak, insecure, conformist sheep that don't like someone that won't run with the herd.
When I lived in Indy people left me alone and did not try to convert me over to their lifestyle. I was NOT being pushed around by people or had anyone try to pick fights with me. BTW. I know how to take care of myself and one of the punks here in KC that started his kick boxing routine with me ran away after I blocked all of his punches and kicks as I was getting ready to flatten him.
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