is it time for another event like this? (Indianapolis, Atlanta: dorms, transfer)
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lol after reading some of these comments it seems like msamhunter and urbanologist know what they are talking about.
The rest are part of the naysayer crowd and honestly guys its getting old. If you want to be critical of Indy sometimes thats fine. But it seems like its just Indy bashing or negativitiy all the time. and those people know who they are.
What bashing??? If anything they are being realistic INDIANAPOLIS SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKE TO HOST AN OLYMPICS, period.
Facilities is above board. People flow and hotel rooms are the issues
Like I said we don't currently have the ability to host an Olympics games.
I know you love this city, as do I, but you don't have to get so defensive every time someone tells the truth about our city.
Except when compared to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway (world's largest capacity seating sports facility) which held the open and closing ceremonies during the Pan Am Games.
Yes, the Speedway could host open and closing ceremonies. Too bad you couldn't play any of the actual games there though.
Reading "Olympics" and "Indianapolis" in the same sentence really is downright comical. If our most famous cities like Chicago and New York are getting rejected with viable plans then the IOC wouldn't give it to some city that many international people have probably never heard of. I love Indy, but that is just the truth.
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Facilities is above board. People flow and hotel rooms are the issues
Indy has enough hotel rooms. now should we add a few more especially downtown? ya but only if the market demands it.
I personally challenge Jim Irsay to spend some of his 1.4 Billion in Wealth and build a new Indianapolis Colts Hotel all Colts themed etc. add about 250 rooms downtown.
Sure you probably had people who also said the same thing about the city hosting the Pan Am Games and the Superbowl.
Those two events aren't on the same level as the Olympics as far as size and you know it.
The Super Bowl is ONE week concerning ONE game that is played in ONE venue. How many venues do you need for the Olympics? How many different games are there? How many athletes would be coming in? How many visitors? The answer to every question is: "way more than what you had with the Super Bowl."
Plus, if you lose a bid on the Super Bowl then you can just comeback the next year with the same bid and try again. That's what we did. We lost to Dallas for the 2011 game but then came back the next year with the same bid and won the game that we just hosted. So we really didn't waste any money. But if you lose your bid for Olympics then THAT'S IT. There is no "next year". You have wasted millions of dollars for nothing.
Is wasting millions and millions of dollars on the MINISCULE chance we would be awarded the Olympics worth it? How could anyone advocate that when cities like Chicago and New York get rejected? Any leader of Indianapolis that wasted that kind of money on such a fantasy would deserved to be kicked out of office immediately.
Yes, the Speedway could host open and closing ceremonies. Too bad you couldn't play any of the actual games there though.
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I believe some of the events during the Pan Am Games were actually held there.
Reading "Olympics" and "Indianapolis" in the same sentence really is downright comical. If our most famous cities like Chicago and New York are getting rejected with viable plans then the IOC wouldn't give it to some city that many international people have probably never heard of. I love Indy, but that is just the truth.
Chicago failed twice to host the Olympics once in 1904 and lost again for the 2016 games. Famous or not why should they deserve another chance to screw it up again? Just FYI the Indy500 is an internationally held event every year in case you didn't know. It's not domestic like Nascar. Many people from other countries actually come to Indy for the event. The world' largest racing event is televised through various media outlets worldwide. I'm quite sure they have heard of Indy or they wouldn't fly all this way to attend it. It's not just the racing groups but fans from those countries. May be it doesn't exist but the 'reality' is it does. Even if we did get an Olympics it would probably anger some locals anyway but you also got that with some of the nay sayers in Chicago's and New York's bid for the games. I'm not going to rule out anything. Anything is possible. Indy should be able to host what it wants. Regardless, I would support any sporting event that comes here.
Like I said we don't currently have the ability to host an Olympics games.
I know you love this city, as do I, but you don't have to get so defensive every time someone tells the truth about our city.
This comment reminds me of a question bertrandandjules posed on the KC forum with regards to Indianapolis and Kansas City and the appearance of the can't do attitude. There is one guarantee. If you never try, you will always fail.
No one thought Atlanta would ever get the 96 Olympics. They said the same thing you are saying now. It will never be, it can only be in New York, LA or Chicago. In the end ATL bobbed and weaved until they were the last ones standing. They never let the naysayers tell them they can't do it.
Let me ask you, do you know why sales is one of the hardest occupations you can be in? Answer: Attitude. The difference between a great salesman, an average salesman and someone who should probably look for a new career is attitude. Great salesman (your top producers, 80/20 rule) go into every appointment telling themselves, they are going to get that sale and earn a commission check. Not only are they going to get that sale, they are going to sell every appointment and then go out and get more. The average salesman is good enough to get a sale or two, crosses their fingers and when that sale is made, off to the golf course making but a fraction as their potential. They lack that hunger. A person looking for a new career always has an excuse. The leads were bad, the lead isn't fresh, it's too far away. There's always an excuse as to why they can't other than the mirror. The top producers know they're not going to sell every appointment, but they darn sure going to go all out as if they know they are.
Indianapolis has two attitudes. The average salesman and the one who should probably be looking for a new career. The average salesman gets the Big Ten Conference championship. Woohoo! Time to hit the links! Happy and content and just fell completely short of its potential. The latter ones are the ones who says Indianapolis just can't, that should sound familiar to you. No matter what the city tries to do, it has no business doing it because it's just Indianapolis. How many naysayers when the city bid on the SB? They were lining up and down the street just to say the city had no business doing it. Then the city got the bid and the talk became, the city can't pull it off successfully. The city made it so successful, the NFL now has a requirement for future SB host cities to model what Indianapolis did and note that is a requirement. Now, it's Indianapolis can't do it again. It will be different next time. Always what the city can't do.
This comment reminds me of a question bertrandandjules posed on the KC forum with regards to Indianapolis and Kansas City and the appearance of the can't do attitude. There is one guarantee. If you never try, you will always fail.
No one thought Atlanta would ever get the 96 Olympics. They said the same thing you are saying now. It will never be, it can only be in New York, LA or Chicago. In the end ATL bobbed and weaved until they were the last ones standing. They never let the naysayers tell them they can't do it.
Let me ask you, do you know why sales is one of the hardest occupations you can be in? Answer: Attitude. The difference between a great salesman, an average salesman and someone who should probably look for a new career is attitude. Great salesman (your top producers, 80/20 rule) go into every appointment telling themselves, they are going to get that sale and earn a commission check. Not only are they going to get that sale, they are going to sell every appointment and then go out and get more. The average salesman is good enough to get a sale or two, crosses their fingers and when that sale is made, off to the golf course making but a fraction as their potential. They lack that hunger. A person looking for a new career always has an excuse. The leads were bad, the lead isn't fresh, it's too far away. There's always an excuse as to why they can't other than the mirror. The top producers know they're not going to sell every appointment, but they darn sure going to go all out as if they know they are.
Indianapolis has two attitudes. The average salesman and the one who should probably be looking for a new career. The average salesman gets the Big Ten Conference championship. Woohoo! Time to hit the links! Happy and content and just fell completely short of its potential. The latter ones are the ones who says Indianapolis just can't, that should sound familiar to you. No matter what the city tries to do, it has no business doing it because it's just Indianapolis. How many naysayers when the city bid on the SB? They were lining up and down the street just to say the city had no business doing it. Then the city got the bid and the talk became, the city can't pull it off successfully. The city made it so successful, the NFL now has a requirement for future SB host cities to model what Indianapolis did and note that is a requirement. Now, it's Indianapolis can't do it again. It will be different next time. Always what the city can't do.
The Super Bowl was always a fairly realistic goal with a brand new indoor stadium and efficient lobbying. All you have to do is lobby enough owners to let you throw their party in your backyard. If you are extremely determined then you're likely going to get it sooner or later as long as you have efficient facilities.
Those that advocate an Olympic chase for Indy underestimate the miniscule chance that we would actually land it compared to the massive costs it would take to put a serious bid together.
Millions of dollars should not be spent on some fantasy where we would be competing against some of the most elite cities in the world for a one time chance to win the event. If you lose then that's it - millions of dollars down the drain with no "next year we can try again" scenario. How could anyone be confident enough that Indy would have a decent chance at winning to the point where they could justify the absurd cost of a bid? Like I said above, this isn't like the Super Bowl where we could just come back the next year and try again after losing.
Also, Indy today is not as big as Atlanta was 20 years when they won the bid (and the gap has obviously gotten much wider since then). Atlanta has the busiest passenger airport in the world as well as a rail system. It's not Chicago or New York, but it is a much larger city than Indy.
All the salesman pep talk sounds nice but it's not very relevant to the reality that Indy has basically a 0% chance of ever landing the Olympics. Every salesman has a limit in what they can accomplish. The Super Bowl is probably Indy's limit as far as large events are concerned (aside from the 500 of course). Instead of wasting our time and money on an unrealistic pipe dream that would assuredly result in a rejection, we should spend our time focusing on doing things that are realistic, like perhaps landing another Super Bowl in the future.
You don't think Chicago had great salesman? The freaking President of the United States advocated for the city and that didn't matter one bit. Every city that bids for the Olympics is going to have great salesman. If the IOC is turning down the most elite cities in this country then they would probably laugh Indy out of the room.
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all Colts themed etc. add about 250 rooms downtown.
