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08-04-2009, 02:51 PM
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I realize that metro areas and cities are not the same thing, but I don't see the point of ignoring metro-area population that resides outside the city limits, which are a more or less arbitrary political designation anyway. Metro population is a better indicator of the overall population in the area, which is needed to support the 'big-city' anemities people like.
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08-05-2009, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Naptowner
I realize that metro areas and cities are not the same thing, but I don't see the point of ignoring metro-area population that resides outside the city limits, which are a more or less arbitrary political designation anyway. Metro population is a better indicator of the overall population in the area, which is needed to support the 'big-city' anemities people like.
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Thats my point though, many of these "metro populations" do not support the "large city" that is central to them at all. Does Camden, NJ pay taxes for Philadelphia parks or stadiums? Sure, when a Camden resident comes to see a game, or goes to a city park, they may pay a gate of some sort, which helps to pay for the park, but what if the Philadelphia tax base was smaller? Do you think they would have all that junk? I know people in the Philadelphia "metro area" that go to Philadelphia once a year.
Also, that argument would only relate to huge items, such as a stadium, what about smaller things to do? A person setting up a downtown Indianapolis restaurant surely is not depending on his partronage coming from Fishers. Sure, a few Fishers people that work in downtown might come in for lunch, and a few might make the trip from Fishers if its a particuliarly attractive place, but by and large, they are mainly depending on the Indianapolis city base to float them.
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08-05-2009, 12:57 PM
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Random ... there are plenty of restaurants in downtown Indy that depend on suburbanites to come in. Another thing that Indy has going for it in spades in that it's a major convention town. Isn't that Gen Con thingy coming soon??? Also, Black Expo is huge as is the FFA convention, plus all the sports, not just Koltz ... the NCAA's, swimming and track ... all hold major championships here.
And Random ... nothing wrong with ODU and their storied women's basketball program!!! They were a pioneering program and my basketball hero is a graduate (Nancy Lieberman).
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08-05-2009, 10:27 PM
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To comment on that population thing did you include that the Indianapolis Metro area is also one of the fastest growing ones in the country. Look at this area 10 years ago and you will be amazed on how much has changed. Carmel had 10,000 people in 1990 and now has 70,000! If you include the whole metro area it is the 26th biggest in the country and getting bigger everyday! Indianapolis will be huge in 10 years and one of the top cities to live in, wait it already is! You'll enjoy the area, its beautiful, that's why my family is moving here, affordable houses and good wages! Great city and metro area and kid friendly! I am originally from Chicago and I prefer Indy, the people aren't aholes! I fell in love with this city the moment I visited it! Plus being a Veteran you have to appreciate all the memorials! Awesome!
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08-06-2009, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by domergurl
Random ... there are plenty of restaurants in downtown Indy that depend on suburbanites to come in.
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Im not so sure about that. The city of Indianapolis is about 60 percent of the whole Indianapolis metro area. I will bet, on any given night, about 85% of the restaurant business towards downton Indy is from Indianapolis residents
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Originally Posted by domergurl
And Random ... nothing wrong with ODU and their storied women's basketball program!!! They were a pioneering program and my basketball hero is a graduate (Nancy Lieberman).
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There is something wrong with that when you are relying on your degree to get you employment outside of Virginia and North Carolina and womans basketball fans. You can go around the country and say "Purdue", and people know what you are talking about.
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08-06-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Randomdude
Im not so sure about that. The city of Indianapolis is about 60 percent of the whole Indianapolis metro area. I will bet, on any given night, about 85% of the restaurant business towards downton Indy is from Indianapolis residents
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Shhhhh!!
People in the 'burbs love to think downtown exists for their own enjoyment, and that it would die without them. Why ruin that for them?
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