What thing do you think Indy needs the most? (Indianapolis: condo, employment)

[domergurl]

Originally Posted by sweetana3

You are really not going to stop homicides with the amount of drugs and gang activity. Not to mention domestic violence. This morning not having a gun might have slowed the guy down. But when anger and a gun are involved and who knows if alcohol or drugs were in his system, no amount of police will stop that kind of person. Sometimes they even want the police to shoot them.

I think when you compare the number of homicides in Indy with the number committed with hand guns, there is your issue.

Agreed Sweet ... it's just scary.

[Zig'sbird]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Well, after reading the newspaper this morning about the double homicide/suicide yesterday, with all the killings going on ... Mayor Ballard needs to harken back on his career as a Marine and get the Guard into the city to patrol the streets and stop the %$#@! killing!!! This is really awful and Indianapolis should be very concerned. I keep reading about the killings and nothing from the Mayor, the police higher ups ... honestly, I'm glad I don't live there.

Can't send the Guard. Most of us are in Iraq right now

Those that aren't, are getting ready to go to afgan

[domergurl]

Originally Posted by Zig'sbird

Can't send the Guard. Most of us are in Iraq right now

Those that aren't, are getting ready to go to afgan

Stay alive ok?

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Darling grmasterb ... Chicago is a major world class city and you can't point to Chicago and say "see, Indy isn't so bad" ... come on man. This killing spree going on in Indianapolis is a shameful blight on a city that isn't known for killings on the scale of Chicago, NYC or Philly.

Don't get all Chicago has more murders on me, duh. This doesn't make Indianapolis look good.

15 murders in 22 days ...
Circle of violence ends 3 lives | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star

All he said was that Chicago has issues too. I don't think he is trying to point at Chicago and say "see, Indy isn't so bad." I also don't see anywhere where he even alluded to Chicago's homicide rate as basis for an argument.

Anyhoo, I would be more concerned with attempting to control burglaries and robberies. Bring back the neighborhood policing and fight the crime that actually effects the most people. Yes, homicides are scary, and yes; we should fight that as well. However, the homicide rate is more of a symptom of deeper issues that need fixed; and is not something that is likely to happen randomly like a burglery or robbery.

[domergurl]

Make that 16 ...

Man Found Dead In South-Side Apartment - Indiana News Story - WRTV Indianapolis

nice, really nice.

[Naptowner]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Darling grmasterb ... Chicago is a major world class city and you can't point to Chicago and say "see, Indy isn't so bad" ... come on man. This killing spree going on in Indianapolis is a shameful blight on a city that isn't known for killings on the scale of Chicago, NYC or Philly.

Don't get all Chicago has more murders on me, duh. This doesn't make Indianapolis look good.

15 murders in 22 days ...
Circle of violence ends 3 lives | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star

Actually I think it's a valid comparison. Chicago is not a "major world class city," IMO, but rather the best city in the American midwest. And to be honest, you'd have to admit that some parts of it are very nice, many parts of it are bland suburbs with nothing to distinguish them from any other midwestern suburbs, and other parts of it are much worse than anything in Indianapolis. Spend a couple hours walking around the El station at 95th and State and tell me how 'world-class' that neighborhood is. And it's worth noting that most of the violence here is criminal-on-criminal. People are generally not getting mugged and shot for their wallets here, although there have been some incidents like that. I'm not tearing down Chicago but be realistic - like Indianapolis, it has nice pockets, but most of it is either crime-ridden or boring, bland suburbia.

[grmasterb]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Darling grmasterb ... Chicago is a major world class city and you can't point to Chicago and say "see, Indy isn't so bad" ... come on man.

That's not at all what I was trying to do. Your comments sound as if we need to be afraid to step out of our houses. My point is that Chicago has seen a similar surge in murders this year, yet no one talks about that. And there's a good reason -- by and large, the city is a safe place to be. I know -- I'm there for a couple of days each month. The same is true, I believe, of Indianapolis.

This is not the first time Indy has experienced such a crime spree. We'll get through this. Long-term, yes, there are crime issues that have to be dealth with. But to insinuate that crime is something holding Indy back, which gets to the original point of this thread, is false. It's serious, but we're far from being Gary, Detroit or even St. Louis city.

[grmasterb]

Originally Posted by Naptowner

Actually I think it's a valid comparison. Chicago is not a "major world class city," IMO, but rather the best city in the American midwest. And to be honest, you'd have to admit that some parts of it are very nice, many parts of it are bland suburbs with nothing to distinguish them from any other midwestern suburbs, and other parts of it are much worse than anything in Indianapolis. Spend a couple hours walking around the El station at 95th and State and tell me how 'world-class' that neighborhood is. And it's worth noting that most of the violence here is criminal-on-criminal. People are generally not getting mugged and shot for their wallets here, although there have been some incidents like that. I'm not tearing down Chicago but be realistic - like Indianapolis, it has nice pockets, but most of it is either crime-ridden or boring, bland suburbia.

Nap, if you haven't noticed already, the boastful Chicagoans largely see the city as starting at the Loop and heading north. Nothing else applies.

[jeff3166]

Originally Posted by domergurl

Well, after reading the newspaper this morning about the double homicide/suicide yesterday, with all the killings going on ... Mayor Ballard needs to harken back on his career as a Marine and get the Guard into the city to patrol the streets and stop the %$#@! killing!!! This is really awful and Indianapolis should be very concerned. I keep reading about the killings and nothing from the Mayor, the police higher ups ... honestly, I'm glad I don't live there.

When I posted this <<<Based on recent events, I'd say more police, along with more jail/prison space.>>> in this thread yesterday, I wasn't kidding.

While a mass transit system would be nice and improved schools near the top of the list, a remedy for the violent crime within the city IS what Indy needs most.

[Naptowner]

I think Indianapolis needs high-wage employment more than anything. Mass transit is a symptom of a densely populated city; it doesn't produce anything on its own. I mean really, what would it change? It would get cars off the street, but traffic here is already minimal compared to comparable cities, and parking is plentiful and extremely cheap. The only people who 'need' mass transit are those who can't afford to drive, and for them it would be sufficient to improve the existing bus system.