The future of public transportation in Indy (Fishers, Marion: high crime, homes)
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Two things beyond mass transit -- security costs and an anti-American IOC. Let's face it, if Chicago can't land the games, Indy doesn't stand a chance. Besides, the games have become too expensive to host.
BTW.....Ravekid has apparently left us, so don't expect a response.
Security costs would be a concern, but the biggest problems to address first would be where to put all the people and how they will get around.
I suspect that Chicago was not chosen for more politically motivated reasons than anti-American sentiments. A new president from Chicago could be the biggest one.
But really, what has Indianapolis ever done to anyone? (Sidenote: The plans for the Super Bowl look pretty freakin' sweet, and look to combat the not-so-friendly February weather in Indiana.)
No more RaveKid? It's a shame. I was hoping for a response from a government employee on why government employees should not make more money.
I don't agree with the above. Homicide rates can definitely be traced back to more than just shear numbers. The overall economy, the way the citizens behave, etc. will have more of an impact than just the amount of people living in a certain area. If everything else stayed the say in terms of demographics, economic opportunity, etc., I doubt Boise, ID, Billings, MT, or Cheyenne, WY would match Chicago in homicides just because they go from 50K-200K to 2.8M people.
As far as mass transit in Indy, I would only vote for a tax if I get a rail line nearby. No rail, no tax. While they claim they would provide future rail spurs, I gotta see it to believe it. I do think that areas where there will be light rail stations will see economic growth, but I don't think it is right to have everyone fork over money for the economic benefit of small pockets in Hamilton, Marion, and Johnson counties. My suggestion to the group would be to have a sliding scale when it comes to the taxation. For the counties that don't get a rail at the start, they pay a much lower tax than those counties that do see light rail.
For the first paragraph: It's possible. Crazy is crazy, is crazy. Do you know how Idaho got it's "smoke stack" shape? Once gold was discovered out west in the mountains, people automatically assumed western mountains were full of gold. So people started going further north in the mountains to try and get rich. The people in Idaho noticed that more "undesirables" were showing up in the wholesome state and decided the best thing to do was redraw the boundries, that would exclude the mountains that were currently in Idaho, and give the mountains to Montana. If there was gold in the mountains, they didn't care if Montana got it, as long as Idaho kept the crazies out of their borders.
If for some reason people started heading to Billings, and the population hit one million, I would bet there would be a few more violent crimes there. More people = more crazy. Less people = less crazy, as a rule of thumb.
I was hoping for a response from a government employee on why government employees should not make more money.
Maybe a gov employee didn't think taxes/fees/tuition should be hiked 1,000% so one could make $10K more a year? Unfortunately, this is the attitude of government, and quasi-government employees: "Raise taxes, raise fees, raise rates, so long as I get mine!!!" Teachers in Illinois protested education cuts, and went to the statehouse with signs saying "RAISE MY TAXES!" Had I been the governor, I would have immediately made a special income taxes that only affected teachers. Similar to how NFL players have to pay special taxes just because they are professional sports players. Imagine the cry from the teacher's union, yet it was they themselves who asked for a tax hike. Oh wait, that's right, they wanted everyone else's taxes raised as well.
The issue isn't government employee pay, it is actually government employee pensions. If you want a gov. pension, just work for the state for ten years. When you hit 65, you will start getting a monthly check.....for life. In addition, there are too many specialized pensions for different public workers, all which pay out more than the basic PERF pension.
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If for some reason people started heading to Billings, and the population hit one million, I would bet there would be a few more violent crimes there. More people = more crazy. Less people = less crazy, as a rule of thumb.
I disagree. Killings and crime isn't a "crazy" problem, it is almost always a culture problem. If lots of cradle to the grave welfare types move to Billings, they would have issues. If lots of "I wanna live the hip-hop gangsta, fast money lifestyle" types move to Billings, they would have issues. Boise metro area is over a half million, yet they don't have half the number of killings the Indy metro has. If you take into account the # of killings per 100,000 between Bosie and Indy, the numbers are totally different.
As far as Idaho not taking the mountains, I bet they feel stupid now. They gave Montana Glacier Nat'l Park!!
Figures, all these power players in Hamilton County want the entire metro area to fund something that will primarily benefit them. This is just like the stadium tax: A small, concentrated few win, while others don't receive jack.
I like the comment from Brainard about more rail, but of course he doesn't want to fund them all at once. I wonder if he thinks Carmel should be last on the list? He knows damn well that a lot of voters in Hendricks, Morgan, Madison, Hancock, and Shelby counties won't be happy seeing Marion, Johnson, and Hamilton get fancy rail systems while they get a bus, or two, and sidewalks!!
Maybe a gov employee didn't think taxes/fees/tuition should be hiked 1,000% so one could make $10K more a year? Unfortunately, this is the attitude of government, and quasi-government employees: "Raise taxes, raise fees, raise rates, so long as I get mine!!!" Teachers in Illinois protested education cuts, and went to the statehouse with signs saying "RAISE MY TAXES!" Had I been the governor, I would have immediately made a special income taxes that only affected teachers. Similar to how NFL players have to pay special taxes just because they are professional sports players. Imagine the cry from the teacher's union, yet it was they themselves who asked for a tax hike. Oh wait, that's right, they wanted everyone else's taxes raised as well.
The issue isn't government employee pay, it is actually government employee pensions. If you want a gov. pension, just work for the state for ten years. When you hit 65, you will start getting a monthly check.....for life. In addition, there are too many specialized pensions for different public workers, all which pay out more than the basic PERF pension.
I disagree. Killings and crime isn't a "crazy" problem, it is almost always a culture problem. If lots of cradle to the grave welfare types move to Billings, they would have issues. If lots of "I wanna live the hip-hop gangsta, fast money lifestyle" types move to Billings, they would have issues. Boise metro area is over a half million, yet they don't have half the number of killings the Indy metro has. If you take into account the # of killings per 100,000 between Bosie and Indy, the numbers are totally different.
As far as Idaho not taking the mountains, I bet they feel stupid now. They gave Montana Glacier Nat'l Park!!
Don't you mean, "been snooping"?
nope, investigating ... I know it's you Rave. Watch your p's & q's this time.
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nope, investigating ... I know it's you Rave. Watch your p's & q's this time.
I knew he re-registered after reading his very first post. Subsequent posts have confirmed that it is, indeed, him.
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