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Old 04-29-2011, 12:56 AM
 
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Sorry, I like free stuff as much as the next man, but opening wifi will only cause more people not to buy internet service, thereby raising prices for everyone else. I can easily imagine the rich guy not purchasing internet service if he can ride free on someone else's network
That's the reason I want to implement some sort of credit system. To use it, you must either share your broadband or pay to use.

Of course, all of this would be totally unnecessary if the cell phone companies rolled out the cheap WiMax service they promised years ago.
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:18 AM
 
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That's the reason I want to implement some sort of credit system. To use it, you must either share your broadband or pay to use.

Of course, all of this would be totally unnecessary if the cell phone companies rolled out the cheap WiMax service they promised years ago.
Well, hopefully they roll it out soon. Hopefully not cheap though... but in line with current cable/FIOS pricing or a little more.
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:26 AM
 
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Well, hopefully they roll it out soon. Hopefully not cheap though... but in line with current cable/FIOS pricing or a little more.
$50 for truly unlimited use would be perfect.
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:38 AM
 
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$50 for truly unlimited use would be perfect.
I was thinking about it. $50 would conflict with current wireless options. I think $75 to $100 would be good. That way they can still keep the limited current offerings as lower tiers, while maximizing revenue on the unlimited wimax.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:24 AM
 
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If everyone had an open router, there would be no way the police could pinpoint you for crimes commited on your line.

We need new laws to protect those who would be generous enough to allow the public to use their broadband.

The benefits outweigh the risks.
Yeah right because an isp is just going to let everyone know exactly what is and isn't possible on their network.

Open routers make the assumption that everyone will work off the honor system. If that fairy tale were true, then corporations would not need to spend any money on electronic security at all and there wouldn't be a need for bank vaults, because no one would steal.

Come out of the fantasy.
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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Yes I did, and I still say that the person that leaves their wireless open to any Tom, Dick or Harry that happens along is a complete fool.
I'd agree but the article is talking about different concept than total unsecured access.

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But an Open Wireless Movement will also need to do technical work: we need to build new technologies to ensure that people have an easy way to share a portion of their bandwidth without affecting the performance of their own network connections while at the same time ensuring that there is absolutely no privacy downside to running an open wireless network.
Not so sure I like this idea, seems more like a socialistic concept. Perhaps I don't want to share? I'm still paying for the excessive usage people are getting for "free". ISP's certainly wouldn't like it and have language in the TOS that would prevent it.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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If everyone had an open router, there would be no way the police could pinpoint you for crimes commited on your line.

We need new laws to protect those who would be generous enough to allow the public to use their broadband.

The benefits outweigh the risks.
You are absolutely clueless about how that works ain't you?

At any point in time, you are assigned a public IP address by your ISP, assigned to the internet side of your router. That address is the source address of every single packet of traffic sent from any computer connecting to your wireless.

Thus everything you (and everyone else connected to your router) do can be tracked to the IP address it was sent from (the one assigned to your router by your ISP) thus directly to you and with a subpoena, the the ISP they simply give them your name, address, etc. Yes, they can absolutely be linked directly to you.

Laws to protect you for having it open, there is no way to do that, or they would have to ignore all kiddy porn, communication of threats, etc.

Where did the concept of thinking that the ability to check your facebook from any where, at any time, and for free is a right. No other form of communication has even broached the topic.

The absurdity of this is staggering. If their battery dies, should they be allowed to knock on your door to use your desktop computer to check their facebook.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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I'm sure we can find a way to take care of the freeloaders.

That exists today, it's called securing your wireless.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Verizon doesn't cap FiOS and they say they never will.

But even if they did, I'm sure we could figure out a way to share the costs as welll. It would still be cheaper than 3G.
And what percentage of homes in the US can get FIOS? 1%? maybe

There is not a single home connected to FIOS in my state.
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Old 04-29-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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And what percentage of homes in the US can get FIOS? 1%? maybe

There is not a single home connected to FIOS in my state.
5% as of 2009. Might be 6% now. Verizon stated that it is winding down expansion and focusing on infiltrating existing areas better and improving the network for areas that already have it available.

Thank god it's available in NJ. Even though I don't have FIOS, it gives me significant bargaining power with Comcast.
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