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Old 07-29-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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"On Thursday, the US House of Representatives approved an internet snooping bill that requires internet service providers (ISPs) to keep records of customer activity for a year so police can review them as needed"

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Old 07-29-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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I would imagine most are already up to at least 6 months. I'd have less concern about the government than what the ISP is already using that data for.
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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I would imagine most are already up to at least 6 months. I'd have less concern about the government than what the ISP is already using that data for.
I think that data would make a tasty target for hackers as well, just think of all those addresses and credit card numbers.
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Old 07-30-2011, 05:38 AM
 
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I think that data would make a tasty target for hackers as well, just think of all those addresses and credit card numbers.
Never set up a ocommerce site or had to deal with CC numbers in my other business's but there are specific regualtions for the CC numbers they have to adhere too. The rest of your personal information is something they would keep forever and share with other companies. There is probably multiple data files floating around about yourself. These companies share a lot of information. I get junk mail like credit card offers for a company I owned that hasn't operated for 6 years at two separate addresses never associated with it. They come to my new house house address and another address for a house that's been vacant for more than a decade. The only association with the vacant house was I had a phone there, never lived there unless you want to count the first five years I was alive.

As far as your online activity all the ISP's will be doing this already and most certainly analyzing it and using it for themselves. The only thing this legislation might do in regard to that is extend the time they keep it.
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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The stupidity of bill is what is so damn staggering, but we are talking about Washington here.

My ISP doesn't even have my CC info, they bill me and I pay with billpay through my CU, and if they ever did, it was years ago and I no longer have that card.

Wonder when ISPs will figure out they should charge us to collect and store this information for the government. So when you see a new charge called "BB data" of a buck or two a month, you will know it is for "Big Brother data collection and storage"
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:24 PM
 
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The stupidity of bill is what is so damn staggering, but we are talking about Washington here.
One the best comments I've read lately...
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:34 PM
 
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My ISP doesn't even have my CC info, they bill me and I pay with billpay through my CU, and if they ever did, it was years ago and I no longer have that card.
I didn't read the actual bill, but I'd bet that the ISP would be required to hold onto your CU routing information... which could be just as troubling if not more.

Also, keep in mind that this is a bill.
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Old 07-31-2011, 12:20 AM
 
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Just came across this article:

Researchers Expose Cunning Online Tracking Service That Can’t Be Dodged

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Researchers at U.C. Berkeley have discovered that some of the net’s most popular sites are using a tracking service that can’t be evaded — even when users block cookies, turn off storage in Flash, or use browsers’ “incognito” functions.
Researchers Expose Cunning Online Tracking Service That Can’t Be Dodged | Epicenter*| Wired.com
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Old 07-31-2011, 05:36 AM
 
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Wonder when ISPs will figure out they should charge us to collect and store this information for the government. So when you see a new charge called "BB data" of a buck or two a month, you will know it is for "Big Brother data collection and storage"
Great point, they could charge you and blame the government for something they are already doing anyway.

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Also, keep in mind that this is a bill.
Hope this doesn't turn into one of those "unintended consequences" deals or a step in the direction of requiring content providers to keep these records. It would be a huge amount of data for small sites/shared hosting to have to keep.
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Old 07-31-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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"Researchers at U.C. Berkeley have discovered that some of the net’s most popular sites are using a tracking service that can’t be evaded — even when users block cookies, turn off storage in Flash, or use browsers’ “incognito” functions."

Lol, what? All of those things are localized solutions to keep people who use your computer from viewing what you did. It has literally no effect on any site's data collection methods. That's got to be the dumbest research group/columnist ever hahahahaha
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