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Old 01-21-2014, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Learn something new every day. Had no clue the CAPTCHA was being used to digitize books. THat is pretty cool. But I still hate it. And there are other types of bot prevention that do NOT use CAPTCHA and are even harder to read.

There is one forum I hang out on that only requires CAPTCHA for your first 20 posts. That's not a bad implementation.
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Old 01-21-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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There is one forum I hang out on that only requires CAPTCHA for your first 20 posts. That's not a bad implementation.
I would suggest that's a terrible implementation, I'm blocking about 1000 per day and that's only the ones I'm logging. There is no captcha on my forum even for registration, about 2 or 3 spammers get through each week.
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I was just trying to send a site feedback on their media player that doesn't work well. It took me much longer to answer all the captcha stuff than to write the feedback. So, there is that "I am not a bot" line at the end, which one has to check (as if a rob can't learn to do that as well). And then, three pages of tiles, asking me to check all tiles with door numbers and street signs. Some of the tiles are so crappy I have to get my magnifying glass. Really? If they don't want feedback, they should just say so instead of pissing people off.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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I was just trying to send a site feedback on their media player that doesn't work well. It took me much longer to answer all the captcha stuff than to write the feedback. So, there is that "I am not a bot" line at the end, which one has to check (as if a rob can't learn to do that as well). And then, three pages of tiles, asking me to check all tiles with door numbers and street signs. Some of the tiles are so crappy I have to get my magnifying glass. Really? If they don't want feedback, they should just say so instead of pissing people off.
Haha... yes! Just the other day, I typed correctly all the Captcha letters just to get another puzzle to solve - The Tiles. Again, I clicked all the correct tiles, just to get... a note: also include new tiles.
So, I clicked the additional tiles, just to get ...

Google sorry...
We're sorry...

... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.

Really???
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Old 02-21-2017, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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A few sites I visit uses captcha tiles. Use to be only once. Pick boxes with street signs. But now two or three pages. Pick boxes with a store front, then another page, pick boxes with flowers. The thing is that if one of the items you pick slightly extends into another box, you don't know if you should click it or not.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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You would think that the computer gurus should be able to create a less annoying way to distinguish humans from robots ...
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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There is one forum I hang out on that only requires CAPTCHA for your first 20 posts. That's not a bad implementation.
I wondered how hard would be implement CAPTCHA in our forum to cut down the flow of spam. But then I learned that any form of CAPTCHA was easily defeated by most bots. So reCAPTCHA (the one with tiles) was invented....
I also saw a simple math questions posted on some Web pages. Those were much less annoying, but I am not sure about their effectiveness...
Somewhere I read about key CAPTCHA but didn't see it actually used.

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Old 02-23-2017, 09:53 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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This is an old topic. Back around 2014 they changed ReCAPTCHA and screwed up and it became almost impossible to solve. That lasted for about a month or so.

I actually wrote an ideal CAPTCHA but I'll have to kill you after I tell you about it.


Elena, I'm pretty sure C-D uses modified vBulletin code (under a portal? or otherwise custom). I'm pretty sure they have it built in or add on available. I write code for SMF and we have dozens of CAPTCHA mod packages besides built in support. That's how you get rid of spammers, make the first N posts require a CAPTCHA and then have a bunch of good validation questions to register (rotate them).
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Old 02-24-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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This is an old topic. Back around 2014 they changed ReCAPTCHA and screwed up and it became almost impossible to solve. That lasted for about a month or so.

I actually wrote an ideal CAPTCHA but I'll have to kill you after I tell you about it.


Elena, I'm pretty sure C-D uses modified vBulletin code (under a portal? or otherwise custom). I'm pretty sure they have it built in or add on available. I write code for SMF and we have dozens of CAPTCHA mod packages besides built in support. That's how you get rid of spammers, make the first N posts require a CAPTCHA and then have a bunch of good validation questions to register (rotate them).
An ideal solution would be based on something typical to humans, but unfathomable to bots and AI. I might have an idea: a generator of optical illusions, which are based on "malfunctions" of the human eye/mind Asking basic questions on images that a bot can't answer, for instance the direction of rotation of this image, which to a bot is totally still:

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Old 02-24-2017, 09:04 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I wrote my own CAPTCHA in PHP and is successfully running on another forum. I'm retired now and finally reached the point where writing code bores me.

Kind of like a retired bus driver. You may be nostalgic about your career at first, but one day you realize you can't stand the sight of a bus. -- I'm that way with code now. The world will have to move on without my contributions.

I recall a story I was once told:

"Put your fingers into a glass of water and observe the water. Now take out one finger. Did it leave a hole in the water?"

The moral of this story is that my quitting writing code won't change the cyber-universe one iota.
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