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Old 07-02-2014, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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What a mess. What a great thing.
MSFT did a great thing, but took out a lot of innocents with friendly fire.
But to reduce hack attacks by 25% according to one security firm? Close to Priceless!

Microsoft Knocks Out 4 Million Websites in Malware Hunt
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:11 AM
 
Location: USA
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Although I believe they had good intentions, I think they should have gone about things a little different. Something needs to be done about the bad things some people and groups will do online, however a more precise attack on those people should be required so the innocent people and companies wouldn't have their websites shut down. As an owner of several websites I know I wouldn't be too happy if my sites went down in the name of catching the bad guys. Maybe MSFT can use a little more precision for the next attack...
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:25 AM
 
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I don't think it's so great, and how is it all it takes is a judges ruling to give MS control over another US businesses property?
A bit heavy handed IMHO. We have MS claiming that No-IP was being unresponsive to criminals using their system, and No-IP claiming MS was never in contact with them about the domains in question.

When did MS become the internet police?
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:56 AM
 
Location: HoCo, MD
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I don't think it's so great, and how is it all it takes is a judges ruling to give MS control over another US businesses property?
A bit heavy handed IMHO. We have MS claiming that No-IP was being unresponsive to criminals using their system, and No-IP claiming MS was never in contact with them about the domains in question.

When did MS become the internet police?
This is also what confuses me about this entire episode. The fact the one business got the okay to seize the assets of another.... Shouldn't this only be allowed by LE organizations?

And according to this article, how Microsoft pursued this was also somewhat sketchy:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...t-notice.shtml
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Old 07-03-2014, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Wandering.
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.... so the innocent companies wouldn't have their websites shut down.
Legit companies don't host with dynamic IP providers, they use hosting companies or static IP addresses.
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Old 07-03-2014, 07:47 AM
 
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Legit companies don't host with dynamic IP providers, they use hosting companies or static IP addresses.
Ditto to this. I say good for MS. In fact, I'd like to see MS expand their operations.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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Legit companies don't host with dynamic IP providers, they use hosting companies or static IP addresses.
Incorrect. Smaller companies may use it for remote access. Home businesses may use it for local access while they're outside the office, plenty of legit purposes.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I don't think it's so great, and how is it all it takes is a judges ruling to give MS control over another US businesses property?
A bit heavy handed IMHO. We have MS claiming that No-IP was being unresponsive to criminals using their system, and No-IP claiming MS was never in contact with them about the domains in question.

When did MS become the internet police?
From my perspective as a not very sophisticated user who once had to wipe my computer completely, this is a wonderful thing. We are engaged in a war with the creators of both malware and viruses. The enemy has ensconced themselves among the innocent much like Al Quaeda hiding among civilians. In wars innocent lives are lost. If a precision bomb isn't available and you have to toss a nuke, so be it. To try to go through the haystack picking out each ant that has invaded would mean an ineffective operation.

Bravo Microsoft!!!

P.S. Innocents now know they need to be careful into whose bed they climb and whom is allowed to crawl into bed with them. They are the ones either creating websites or paying professionals to do it. Responsibility, IMO, should lie with website creators and operators.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I posted this because I have mixed feelings, and knew there would be strong opinions on both sides.
With the lack of government caring, other than to have NSA snooping, it gets too easy to support vigilante justice.
But, the collateral damage to legitimate sites is certainly disturbing.

I wish I had put a poll on the original post...
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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Oh, is that why lycos.com is down yesterday? Can't get to it. I agree that lycos might have been used as phishing tool by those degenerates.
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