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Old 07-21-2014, 12:55 PM
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So are you saying you would put up a video news aggregation site with embedded youtube videos and wouldn't worry about being sued?
I believe I'd consult a copyright attorney before embarking on a revenue-producing use for someone else's copyrighted material. Intellectual property is a tricky legal area.
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:28 PM
 
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As has been said there is nothing wrong with Embedding video from YouTube through the proper channel (which would be YouTubes Embed tools). As was said, this can be disabled by the content creator.

If I read this correctly, you aren't trying to make money on these video's themselves, right? You just want to generate more traffic. If you somehow make money by charging for the videos using some kind of plugin... yea, that's not legal.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:02 PM
 
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As has been said there is nothing wrong with Embedding video from YouTube through the proper channel (which would be YouTubes Embed tools). As was said, this can be disabled by the content creator.

If I read this correctly, you aren't trying to make money on these video's themselves, right? You just want to generate more traffic. If you somehow make money by charging for the videos using some kind of plugin... yea, that's not legal.
I wouldn't sell the videos. That is a clear violation of property. What makes this so confusing is that even though some youtuber's have had embedding enabled, some have still tried to sue people for using their videos on their website. So even with just embedding, it can be a dicy proposition. That's why if I could figure out an efficient and fast way to create my own content, I probably will.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:21 PM
 
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they have tried to sue people for embedding their videos on their website.
I'd like to see reference where someone has been sued for embedding a video. Even if someone was sued the chances the lawsuit was successful is about 0.
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:34 AM
 
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I'd like to see reference where someone has been sued for embedding a video. Even if someone was sued the chances the lawsuit was successful is about 0.
While I don't have a link to a story of the lawsuit (the reference didn't name the case), I do have the site where I saw it mentioned.

Fourth paragraph down from where it starts at "Videos Created By Other People".


Is it Okay to Post YouTube Videos on My Website? (Copyright Question) (thesitewizard.com)

What's lacking in the above linked assessment is that even in a case where someone has their embed code enabled, that doesn't mean they still don't require users of their video(s) to abide by rules of "fair use", namely accompanying the embedded video with some kind of commentary or criticism. Perhaps in that case the embed code wasn't used in a way that fell under fair use?

As the videos would be embedded automatically on my own site, I would not be offering the videos my commentary. They would only be there for viewing, basically. So I assume you can now see the conundrum of running such a website.

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Old 07-22-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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4th paragraph from your link. In the legal field we call this: Hearsay...

"In practice, however, not all owners seem to know what they're doing. I recently read a report about the copyright owners of a video trying to sue sites that had embedded their YouTube video. I find this ridiculous, since if they really did not want others to embed the video, they should have disabled the EMBED code. It seems to me that if you enable the EMBED code, it means you are implicitly inviting others to put the video on their site."

There's not a chance in hell, if this was true, that the plaintiff won such a suit.

Link away my friend (using the aforementioned proper tools). Kind of the point of YouTube. People WANT you to embed their videos. Views = money to the real players on YouTube.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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You can sue anyone for anything at anytime... that doesn't mean you will be successful.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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Thanks, Captain Obvious.
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Old 07-22-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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Who knows how much it would cost me to ask a lawyer all this so I do appreciate everyone's feedback.

I've always been somebody who has been behind the curve so perhaps my knowledge of the current guidelines for content use are from the past?
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Old 07-22-2014, 10:46 AM
 
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Who knows how much it would cost me to ask a lawyer all this so I do appreciate everyone's feedback.
I'm not lawyer and if I were venture to guess a lawyer may give you the exact opposite advice.
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