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Old 07-21-2014, 04:27 PM
 
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When is the MPAA and RIAA gestapo going to realize they are never going to win this war?

It's illegal to snarf music/movies and such from torrent sites because somebody must pay the artist to have a right to enjoy their work.

*BUT*

You can go to a used book/record store buy them legally and the artist/whatever getting nothing which is OK.

Goes to show you this isn't about the "artist getting paid" but a gestapo enterprise making $$$.
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:57 PM
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Having worked in the content-creation business and having managed a budget that was dependent on revenue from that content, I will always have a difficult time thinking of Pirate Bay and that ilk as "the good guys."
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:37 PM
 
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If the RIAA and MPAA are so concerned with You shouldn’t enjoy somebody’s work without paying them for it. (which is the mantra they always whine about) why don't they go after the used book/movie/song businesses?

As someone else puts it:

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And yet, there it is in black and white. There is no connection at all between “you enjoying a fine work” and “the artist getting paid”. None whatsoever. When you’re buying something at a second-hand store and enjoying it, the original writer doesn’t get a cent, and everybody THINKS that’s okay. (Even if a few people in the copyright industry are trying to outlaw second-hand sales, they’re not being very successful at it.)
Another Argument Against The "Artist Must Get Paid" Nonsense
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:12 PM
 
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The good guys? The RIAA and the MPAA are a bunch of idiots to put it bluntly but just becsue you don't agree with their policies is no reason to condone outright theft. Copyright law is fundamental to capitalistic society and if the copyright owner can and should be able to set whatever restrictions they want. If you don't like it, vote with your wallet and don't buy it.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:19 PM
 
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If the RIAA and MPAA are so concerned with You shouldn’t enjoy somebody’s work without paying them for it. (which is the mantra they always whine about) why don't they go after the used book/movie/song businesses?
You don't own the copyrighted content. You own a plastic disc and a license that allows you to use that use content. When you sell the plastic disc you're also selling that license for that content to the new owner.
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Old 07-22-2014, 12:24 AM
 
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You don't own the copyrighted content. You own a plastic disc and a license that allows you to use that use content. When you sell the plastic disc you're also selling that license for that content to the new owner.
Based on the statistics people around the globe have realized the RIAA and the MPAA have no interest in the artists since they get no money except from the original POS hence the increased traffic on Pirate Bay and others.
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Old 07-22-2014, 12:27 AM
 
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...the RIAA and the MPAA have no interest in the artists since ....
That's between them and the artists. What does that have to do with you or theft of content?
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Old 07-23-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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You don't own the copyrighted content. You own a plastic disc and a license that allows you to use that use content. When you sell the plastic disc you're also selling that license for that content to the new owner.
I'd estimate at least half of those have had a copy made that remains with the original owner.
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Old 07-23-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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That's between them and the artists. What does that have to do with you or theft of content?
It has to do with fairness...

We all deplore copyright trolls, what differentiates them from the RIAA and MPAA?

Oh that's right, the artist needs to get their fair share...
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Old 07-23-2014, 01:11 PM
 
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It has to do with fairness...

We all deplore copyright trolls, what differentiates them from the RIAA and MPAA?

Oh that's right, the artist needs to get their fair share...
A copyright troll would be someone that for example would gain copyright to an image that was widely distributed without the original authors permission and then sues anyone using it. That doesn't apply here.


The artists have made contracts for the material they have produced, you're trying to justify theft becsue you don't agree with a contract between them and someone else. That contract has nothing to do with you.
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