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Old 07-27-2014, 09:42 AM
 
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Everyone and their pet can create a nice looking website today. The real issue, to making the site a success, is being able to drive the *right* traffic to the site!
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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My pet does a lousy job of creating websites. My attempts to teach it HTML 5 have failed miserably. All it does is sit in front of the screen and watch cat videos. I guess then that the obvious continuation of your startling revaluation is to make sure you have enough cat videos on your website.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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ummm, ok...
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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All it does is sit in front of the screen and watch cat videos.
I think your pet is just milking the job!!!
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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ummm, ok...
I can't tell who you're responding to. But I've been working in some site builders and have found it's really easy, even for the average person, to create great looking websites. Also the ability to create great web apps is approaching "average joe" skill levels.
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:27 AM
 
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But I've been working in some site builders and have found it's really easy, ....
Be wary of site builders especially if it's a proprietary one used by the hosting company. Everything might be easy but try moving it to another host. Even If you can move the files which is questionable you're going to lose the backend for managing it. You'll be stuck building a new one from scratch and there is other issues as well such as getting easy access to the files. I volunteered to do website for a nonprofit and as the saying goes no good deed goes unpunished. They were using one of those site builders, it was nightmare mostly becsue there was no FTP access for the high resolution images they uploaded over 10 years. What should of took me a couple of clicks with FTP turned into a 2 day odyssey clicking around a web interface so I could right click and save each image.

If you're going to build site use a CMS like Drupal or Wordpress. There is a learning curve but if you ever go to move it to another host you can have it up and running in hours.
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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If you're going to build site use a CMS like Drupal or Wordpress. There is a learning curve but if you ever go to move it to another host you can have it up and running in hours.
Moving a website that has been running Drupal or Wordpress isn't for the layman. I'm just talking about how easy it is for the average person to *build* a website with these new site builders.
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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ummm, ok...
I think he's just wondering what kind of discussion you wanted to start with that post.
As am I.

Are you suggesting people should make websites? How about more info on that?
Teaching your dog to use Weebly to make a site? Video please!
Do you want to talk about driving traffic to websites??
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Everyone and their pet can create a nice looking website today. The real issue, to making the site a success, is being able to drive the *right* traffic to the site!
Well, in theory web builders, such as the online version of Wordpress, make it automated for folks to build "professional" looking websites. But the problem I often see is that I can almost tell when someone is using a template and when they have actually hired a professional to build the site. Now, you might have a professional who can turn a template into something unique, but I'd argue that your website building novice is going to keep things looking pretty much like the template he or she started with.

For me, I hate using website builders, even though it's nice to have a starting template as a building block. The biggest thing I hate about them is that I feel I don't learn the important details of how things really work with today's website design. While it may take me years to build one decent looking website, I'd rather code everything from scratch - at least I know how it all works underneath. That might be the reason why I'm not a website designer, lol!
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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I think he's just wondering what kind of discussion you wanted to start...
I think we should discuss focusing on website traffic. Now that most anyone can create a great looking site the next thing would be traffic.
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