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Old 11-10-2014, 08:03 PM
Status: "I'm a fighter" (set 2 days ago)
Location: USA
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Today's kids and teens don't have to deal with parents yelling quit tying up the phone line! ahhh...those were the days.
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:25 PM
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No, because I know that "the Internet", as though it were somehow a "thing" in and of "itself", does not have any particular "speed" that "it" runs at. Your PC, a server you've connected to, your gateway and/or your access node (ISP) are what run slowly. "The Internet" does not run slowly. <rolls eyes>

"But... when I am paying for a certain throughput rate, and they do not deliver, it IS frustrating."
I take it you must also be on Centurylump...

Last edited by ratchetjaw; 11-10-2014 at 08:35 PM..
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Old 11-10-2014, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NJBest View Post
I went incognito. No cache the first time. Second time had cache.
All know is that is what the built in developer tools on FF told me, just tried it again with firebug and now it's down to 3MB.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:11 PM
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These are at home. My earlier time was from my office.
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Ashbeck View Post
Early in the morning the internet was running too slow and it makes me mad. It's working now. Often I have problems with the internet. Who else gets frustrated when the internet goes slow? I know I do for sure.

If I need to get information from an account I get a wee bit irritated but nothing outrageous, otherwise I really don't care as long as it works when I am ready to play one of the mind numbing games I play or read/post on this forum.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ratchetjaw View Post
No, because I know that "the Internet", as though it were somehow a "thing" in and of "itself", does not have any particular "speed" that "it" runs at. Your PC, a server you've connected to, your gateway and/or your access node (ISP) are what run slowly. "The Internet" does not run slowly. <rolls eyes>
When we first got 100Mbps, this was years ago now. I noticed that some web sites loaded much slower than others on a consistent basis. I always assumed that was at the "other" end. As the rest of the nation got faster internet the problem has been less evident.

I agree that it is usually at the user end that the problem exists.

Our older PC's run at about 20Mbps, while the newer runs go up to 85Mbps wireless and 94Mbps wired. It does make it real frustrating when using the older PC's.

If your running Chrome you might want to block double-click from Google. I found it really slowed up my machines particularly on the slower computers. Haven't noticed it hanging on double-click for awhile, but you might want to check that.

Google "ad.doubleclick.net and how to get rid of it". Good luck.
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:25 PM
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First off, young man/woman, I ought to wash your mouth out with soap and send you to bed without dinner. When I was growing up "googling" was something people did between themselves privately and didn't talk about in public, had they been taught any manners at all.

Second, dump Chrome and install Firefox. Seriously. Don't use Chrome. I mean it. When you run Chrome, you're basically saying "O Great and Powerful Big Brother, watch me. I don't take privacy seriously. I have nothing to hide because I'm innocent. Go ahead and mine my browsing habits". Don't give into the desires of the enemy. In some countries people are publicly executed for that.

Third and most importantly:
Quote: localhost

#THE ICON OF SIN! google.com #} comment out if CAPTCHA tests fail to appear on third-party sites, but remember to set Firefox to always BLOCK cookies and uncomment when finished www.google.com #}

# miscellaneous Google services that you may or may not want to block, depending on your particular needs youtube.com www.youtube.com maps.google.com mail.google.com accounts.google.com support.google.com translate.google.com plusone.google.com groups.google.com # just download Pan and set up your free NNTP account on http://albasani.net/ instead fusion.google.com plus.google.com chrome.google.com checkout.google.com goo.gl youtu.be # youtu.be/1a2b3c4d5e is the same as youtube.com/watch?v=1a2b3c4d5e; go ahead and block it unless you're too lazy (they do perform tracking via youtu.be so beware) maps.gstatic.com #} comment out these last four if you need to use Maps since they are where the tiles originate www.gstatic.com #} csi.gstatic.com #} ssl.gstatic.com #}

# ads & tracking crap - the nasty stuff you want to block sassets.vevo.com #} Youtube-related ad servers - doesn't hurt anything to block these 2975c.v.fwmrm.net #} (and makes YT considerably less irritating to use) m.v.fwmrm.net #} .fwmrm.net #} pagead2.googlesyndication.com googlesyndication.com ads.googlesyndication.com www.googlesyndication.com adwords.google.com googleadservices.com www.googleadservices.com googleanalytics.com ssl.googleanalytics.com www.googleanalytics.com google-analytics.com .google-analytics.com ssl.google-analytics.com www.google-analytics.com www.googletagservices.com ssl.googletagservices.com .googletagservices.com googletagservices.com doubleclick.com .doubleclick.com gan.doubleclick.net doubleclick.net .doubleclick.net ad.doubleclick.net #<-- PAGING 509! PAGING 509! ad-g.doubleclick.net googleads.g.doubleclick.net ad.ie.doubleclick.net static.doubleclick.net partner.googleadservices.com googletagmanager.com www.googletagmanager.com fls.doubleclick.net .fls.doubleclick.net

#other useless Google components - don't comment out unless necessary for troubleshooting
#mostly graphic and script bloat youtube-nocookie.com #}not sure what this is for, but here it is www.youtube-nocookie.com #} s.youtube.com s1.youtube.com s2.youtube.com ytimg.googleusercontent.com #} needless graphic clutter for Youtube-related sites i0.ytimg.com #} i1.ytimg.com #} i2.ytimg.com #} i3.ytimg.com #} i4.ytimg.com #} i5.ytimg.com #} clients.google.com clients0.google.com clients1.google.com clients2.google.com clients3.google.com clients4.google.com clients5.google.com clients6.google.com clients7.google.com clients8.google.com clients9.google.com gg.google.com html5shiv.googlecode.com b3.caspio.com buttons.googlesyndication.com googleusercontent.com lh0.googleusercontent.com lh1.googleusercontent.com lh2.googleusercontent.com lh3.googleusercontent.com lh4.googleusercontent.com lh5.googleusercontent.com lh6.googleusercontent.com lh7.googleusercontent.com lh8.googleusercontent.com lh9.googleusercontent.com s.googleusercontent.com s0.googleusercontent.com s1.googleusercontent.com s2.googleusercontent.com s3.googleusercontent.com s4.googleusercontent.com s5.googleusercontent.com s6.googleusercontent.com s7.googleusercontent.com s8.googleusercontent.com s9.googleusercontent.com ggpht.com lh1.ggpht.com lh2.ggpht.com lh3.ggpht.com lh4.ggpht.com lh5.ggpht.com lh6.ggpht.com yt0.ggpht.com yt1.ggpht.com yt2.ggpht.com yt3.ggpht.com yt4.ggpht.com yt5.ggpht.com yt6.ggpht.com gp1.googleusercontent.com gp2.googleusercontent.com gp3.googleusercontent.com gp4.googleusercontent.com gp5.googleusercontent.com gp6.googleusercontent.com gp7.googleusercontent.com themes.googleusercontent.com #} Graphic bloat for Google-hosted Web logs 1.bp.blogspot.com #} 2.bp.blogspot.com #} 3.bp.blogspot.com #} 4.bp.blogspot.com #}

#not sure if these need to be blocked or not; I've not had any issues with them being blocked (Y.R.M.V.) chart.apis.google.com fonts.googleapis.com

#section included for reference only, might break some third-party sites if blocked
# ajax.googleapis.com #} dependency hell for sites that
# apis.google.com #} use resources from these servers
# maps.googleapis.com #}
# ajax.microsoft.com #}
# s0.2mdn.net #} break Youtube if blocked--leave commented out
# static.2mdn.net #} unless you don't need to use Youtube
# s.ytimg.com #}
# r13---sn-vgqsem7g.googlevideo.com #} Youtube video streaming server. Defeats the entire purpose of Youtube if blocked-- don't uncomment if you need to use Youtube
There you go.

Might as well copy all of these to your hosts file while you're at it:

Quote: fb.com facebook.com www.facebook.com m.facebook.com ns1.facebook.com ns2.facebook.com ns3.facebook.com ns4.facebook.com ns5.facebook.com register.facebook.com pixel.facebook.com login.facebook.com pt-br.facebook.com es-la.facebook.com fr-fr.facebook.com de-de.facebook.com ar-ar.facebook.com hi-in.facebook.com zh-cn.facebook.com ja-jp.facebook.com apps.facebook.com error.facebook.com connect.facebook.com connect.facebook.net badge.facebook.com static.ak.connect.facebook.com static.ak.facebook.com s-static.ak.facebook.com graph.facebook.com ah0.facebook.com ah1.facebook.com ah2.facebook.com ah3.facebook.com ah4.facebook.com ah5.facebook.com ah6.facebook.com ah7.facebook.com ah8.facebook.com api.facebook.com fb.net facebook.net www.facebook.net m.facebook.net ns1.facebook.net ns2.facebook.net ns3.facebook.net ns4.facebook.net ns5.facebook.net register.facebook.net pixel.facebook.net login.facebook.net pt-br.facebook.net es-la.facebook.net fr-fr.facebook.net de-de.facebook.net ar-ar.facebook.net hi-in.facebook.net zh-cn.facebook.net ja-jp.facebook.net apps.facebook.net error.facebook.net badge.facebook.net static.ak.connect.facebook.net static.ak.facebook.net graph.facebook.net static.ak.fbcdn.net b.static.ak.fbcdn.net external.ak.fbcdn.net profile.ak.fbcdn.net fb.me ogp.me fbshare.me .fbshare.me widgets.fbshare.me on.fb.me fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net #}avatars cdn, can be used for malicious cross-site purposes fbcdn-profile-b.akamaihd.net #} scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net #} scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net #} scontent-c.xx.fbcdn.net #} api.facebook.net twitter.com www.twitter.com platform.twitter.com a0.twimg.com a1.twimg.com a2.twimg.com a3.twimg.com dev.twitpic.com twitter-badges.s3.amazonaws.com t.co abs.twimg.com pbs.twimg.com m.commotion.com
Now that you've done that, sit back and watch in awe as your Web pages load tens of times faster than they did previously and the Web's IQ level suddenly increases hundredfold. Or rediscover a social life you'd probably forgotten you had in the real world.

Last edited by ratchetjaw; 11-12-2014 at 09:24 PM.. Reason: added the rest -- no sense having it in a seperate post
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:10 PM
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"I agree that it is usually at the user end that the problem exists."
Often, but not always or even usually.

You could be using the fanciest gigabit fibre-to-the-node system money can buy and the fastest PC ever built on your end, but if the mainframe you're connecting to is only backed with, say, a T1 line with 1.5 Mb/s service being shared with others, that's all the faster anything from it is going to transfer if you're lucky. You are almost always at the mercy of the remote host.

NEVER assume that just because your ISP advertises a certain maximum throughput rate that you're always going to attain it. Maybe in the lab under ideal conditions, but not in the field (i.e. real world) where things are rarely, if ever, ideal.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:21 PM
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Technical note about the hosts file:

The site associated with "twitter.com" is fairly benign by itself. You can probably get away with unblocking it if you keep the domains listed beneath it'd, mark it as "untrusted" in Noscript and set Firefox to block its cookies. (Takes maybe all of two minutes to do.)
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Old 10-24-2015, 10:48 PM
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Every now and then the internet runs too slow on my ipod especially at night.
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