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Old 10-16-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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Nope. It's not automatically updating computers without the user's consent.
Actually it is. Even though the update is listed under optional, it is being selected by default, which isn't supposed to happen with optional updates.

Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windows 7, 8 systems | Ars Technica

Microsoft is claiming that this is a mistake (another in a line of many), don't buy that in the least.

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Old 10-16-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Actually it is. Even though the update is listed under optional, it is being selected by default, which isn't supposed to happen with optional updates.

Windows 10 upgrade installing automatically on some Windows 7, 8 systems | Ars Technica

Microsoft is claiming that this is a mistake (another in a line of many), don't buy that in the least.
"For those not wanting to make the switch to Windows 10 just yet, all is not lost; the installer does require human intervention to actually proceed, so you won't run the risk of waking up to find your PC running a different operating system. If you're not paying attention, though, you may find yourself upgrading sooner than you expected."

That's why I can't stress enough to simply shut off Windows update and use an alternative means to push out updates, or at least have Microsoft updates set up to where it requires user intervention. I mean, we can blame Microsoft for being those sneaky little rascals all we want, but it comes down to how lazy and uniformed the user really is for allowing their machine to be automatically updated.
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Old 10-16-2015, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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Sounds like you know what you're talking about skinsguy. Just reading different articles and blogs my impression has been some people are having it forced on them. Thanks for the info though.
Well, being the environment that I work in at my job, things that I have been taught is to not go with auto anything unless you, yourself, are the one who set it up. Meaning, not allowing things within your network to be automatically updated unless the auto updates are being pushed out through a "local" means through the network. And all that means is, unless your IT dept is the one pushing the updates out through some automated process after the updates have been closely scrutinized.

In terms of home use. I just kind of apply that same principle. Microsoft pushes out updates once a month, so as long as I check updates once at the end of each month, I should be OK. Unless I, of course, I hear about some emergency patch that needs to be pushed out immediately.
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:31 PM
 
Location: God's Gift to Mankind for flying anything
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For what it is worth ...

I have set up updates to go manually, and I have taken the time to figure out (at least tried to), what each updates does. Just *google* the KB number.

So as of lately these are the KB updates I have removed and always delete them from the list of available updates, whether optional or otherwise. Not all of them are for Win 10, but also because of telemetry data that gets sent to Microsoft.

2952664
2976978
2977759
3021917
3035583
3068708
3075249
3080149

If anybody knows of more *nasty* KB updates, please let us all know !!

All the above updates are easily removed, and my computer does not show any anomalies.
I also have removed the two directories Win 10 places on your computer.
Visible only if you change the directories to show *hidden* files.

I did make two thumb drives with the Win 10 installation.
32 and 64 bit versions.
Some day I hope Microsoft will have most of the bugs out !

Just a few hours ago, I checked and all those I deleted or have not installed are there again listed as important.
Some of them are for Internet Explorer, but since I do not use IE, I just do not install them.
I presently have IE 8 on the PC ...

Last but not least ...
If you do decide that Win 10 is the way to go, do NOT install automatically but do the step by step procedure.
Do NOT accept all automatic choices. Read each step closely and find out what you are really agreeing to !!!

Even if you buy a new computer with Win 10 already installed, please go thru all the settings and again read what you did agree to.
There IS a way to limit the nasty-nes !

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Old 10-22-2015, 10:24 AM
 
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I *knew* I had some more *funny* update stuff somewhere, and I found it ...
I have no recollection *where* I got this from !

Anybody care to comment on this ???

=============================
KB2505438 (Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts)
KB2670838 (The EVIL Update, breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy, Windows 7 specific update only, do not install IE10 or 11 otherwise it will be bundled with them, IE9 is the max version you should install)
KB2882822 (Very fishy update that just popped up with not enough detail about it)
KB2902907 (Microsoft Security Essentials)
KB2952664 ("Get Windows 10" Assistant)
KB2976978 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB3012973 (Force Trigger Download and Install of Windows 10)
KB3015249 (Adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 7 & Windows 8)
KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation + Telemetry)
KB3022345 (Telemetry)
KB3035583 (GWX Update installs the "Get Windows 10" app in Windows 7 & Windows 8)
KB3044374 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8 systems)
KB3050267 (Windows 10 upgrade preparation but also adds the option in GPEDIT to disable Windows 10 upgrade altogether so you may want to actually install this)
KB3064683 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3065987 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3065988 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3068708 (Telemetry)
KB3072318 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB3074677 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3075249 (Telemetry)
KB3075851 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7)
KB3075853 (Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8)
KB3078667 (Claims to fix memory leaks in dwm.exe but also is a Windows 10 upgrade preparation according to this article)
KB3080149 (Telemetry)
KB3081437 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3081454 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)
KB3083324 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7)
KB3083325 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8)
KB3083710 (Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 7, see this thread)
KB3083711 (Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 8, see this thread)
KB3086255 (Flagged as an Important update. It disables SafeDisc games in Windows Vista, 7, and 8/8.1)
KB3090045 (Windows 10 Upgrade Update for Windows 7/8)

Bat file to remove above updates

@echo off
echo [---Uninstalling updates, please be patient---]
wusa /uninstall /kb:2505438 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2670838 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2882822 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2902907 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3012973 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3015249 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3050267 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3064683 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3065987 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3065988 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3072318 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3074677 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075851 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075853 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3078667 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3081437 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3081454 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083324 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083710 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3086255 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3090045 /quiet /norestart
echo [---Uninstall complete, restart your computer to finish---]
============================================

Last edited by irman; 10-22-2015 at 10:36 AM..
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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You likely got it from here Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry - AnandTech Forums
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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OK, I remember now !!
Thanks Dave.
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