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Old 01-05-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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While the browser is still, technically, downloading the files to cache, you can use an incognito browser which wipes the cache when the browser is closed.
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Old 01-05-2016, 04:58 PM
 
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You could have tried explaining it to her as others did later....
She already chose to disagree. If she wanted help understanding, I would have done so.
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Old 01-05-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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While the browser is still, technically, downloading the files to cache, you can use an incognito browser which wipes the cache when the browser is closed.
I believe the point is that you're still held liable for downloading the content (if there's a liability involved).
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Old 01-05-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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I think the major worry might be so-called "child porn." Even if you have no intention to look at the stuff, there it is. Maybe that's no problem?

Most of the people we read about who get arrested have thousands of child porn pictures and videos on their hard rives. For them, it's no accident.
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Old 01-05-2016, 05:56 PM
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Any webpage/image you view in your web browser has been downloaded/cached by your web browser for viewing. You may not have downloaded it in the sense you're used to, but it has been downloaded and exists as a file on your hard drive.
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She already chose to disagree. If she wanted help understanding, I would have done so.
Yes, and I am sorry - I DID misunderstood it, sorta... (see below)

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While the browser is still, technically, downloading the files to cache, you can use an incognito browser which wipes the cache when the browser is closed.
... because I use Tor/Tails - for secure browsing (no, I don't do illegal stuff, I just like my privacy.)
So, I didn't thought about it.

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Just one of the reasons I run Ccleaner on a regular basis.
That could work, but the purpose of CCleaner is to serve as a junk remover, not an evidence destroyer.
Use sandbox, but uncheck it when running CCleaner. However, images will still show in Recuva.
You probably can stop images from showing up on a Recuva scan when you browse from a USB stick...
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:17 AM
 
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That could work, but the purpose of CCleaner is to serve as a junk remover, not an evidence destroyer.
Use sandbox, but uncheck it when running CCleaner. However, images will still show in Recuva.
You probably can stop images from showing up on a Recuva scan when you browse from a USB stick...
It can also be set to overwrite using 35 passes.

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Old 01-06-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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I believe the point is that you're still held liable for downloading the content (if there's a liability involved).
It gets a little bit more granular than that in the legal sense. The court would have to determine if the user reached out to those sites, specifically to view and or to possess such data, or is it a case where the user stumbled upon the site unknowingly? Really depends upon the court, the judge, and the state's definition of possession and downloading. Is there evidence to support that the user's cache data is enough to determine guilt? What evidence would that be? I believe cached data is a starting point to determine liability, but I don't think it's necessarily the end all, be all of determining possession.

Edit: So, if we look at the OP's question, in the simplistic short form answer, "Is it legal to view ANYTHING on the internet", the answer would be, is the intent to seek and reach out to view the material, or was the viewing of said material in a manner that you view something to see what it is and "walk away" from it without "reaching out" to possess it? If the former, then it is not legal, because you're not just viewing, but possessing said material, and deleting cache files would be determine that you're trying to get rid of something you once were in possession of. if the latter, then it's legal because the intent is not there.
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Old 01-06-2016, 02:40 PM
 
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If everyone knows that information they place on the Internet is downloaded by default when it is viewed then they have, in my mind, given me permission to download it without penalty. As long as it's only stored in cache.

And arguing that they didn't realize that is the way it works is not an argument. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Having it cached on my computer is okay. If I use it in any other manner it is not.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:24 AM
 
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If everyone knows that information they place on the Internet is downloaded by default when it is viewed then they have, in my mind, given me permission to download it without penalty. As long as it's only stored in cache.

And arguing that they didn't realize that is the way it works is not an argument. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Having it cached on my computer is okay. If I use it in any other manner it is not.
This is absolutely wrong. Just because someone puts something on the internet, it doesn't give you permission to download it without penalty.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:45 AM
 
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Yes but can they really control that???? People are doing it everyday (1/2 of them dont even realise it)
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