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Old 05-04-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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If this happens then eveyone had better get ready to pay big to their internet use.

Obama FCC Expected to Abandon Net Neutrality, Universal Internet - Democratic Underground
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:35 PM
 
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If this happens then eveyone had better get ready to pay big to their internet use.

Obama FCC Expected to Abandon Net Neutrality, Universal Internet - Democratic Underground
no, that's not going to happen.

and your link was to the worst written article I've read on the subject.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:36 PM
 
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no, that's not going to happen.

and your link was to the worst written article I've read on the subject.
Post your's if ya got a better one rather than complain about mine.

At least I warned folks............
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:51 AM
 
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If this happens then eveyone had better get ready to pay big to their internet use.
Everyone?? Probably not. But the small number of users who consume a disproportionate amount of bandwith may end up paying.

It's kind of funny that the argument in favor of a "free and open" internet is for regulation by the FCC.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:29 PM
 
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Post your's if ya got a better one rather than complain about mine.

At least I warned folks............
no, you directed them to an extremely biased website with articles that in no way resemble actual journalism.
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Old 05-05-2010, 10:32 PM
 
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no, you directed them to an extremely biased website with articles that in no way resemble actual journalism.
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Old 05-06-2010, 03:33 PM
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Here's an article discussing the FCC's new plan for Internet regulation, announced today.

FCC outlines new 'third way' internet regulatory plan, will split access from content -- Engadget
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I just got my first living example of violation of Net Neutrality. Using Hotmail, I sent two links to a friend who also uses Hotmail. One was a pasted URL to a YouTube video, the other was a pasted URL to a website.

The recipient received the YouTube video highlighted as a hyperlink, but the other simply appeared as an http in plain text, not clickable.

Clearly, Hotmail has now taken the position of transmitting hyperlinks to partner sites, but not to general websites.

This is very frightening.
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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I just got my first living example of violation of Net Neutrality. Using Hotmail, I sent two links to a friend who also uses Hotmail. One was a pasted URL to a YouTube video, the other was a pasted URL to a website.

The recipient received the YouTube video highlighted as a hyperlink, but the other simply appeared as an http in plain text, not clickable.

Clearly, Hotmail has now taken the position of transmitting hyperlinks to partner sites, but not to general websites.

This is very frightening.
You are sure about that?

If you sent it to me, and you are not in my address book, my mail client will show everything as plain text, it is a security feature I have implemented, not a plot by some corporation or government.

Perhaps hotmail thinks you are a spammer, and is sending it in plain text to protect others.
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Old 08-01-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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You are sure about that?

If you sent it to me, and you are not in my address book, my mail client will show everything as plain text, it is a security feature I have implemented, not a plot by some corporation or government.

Perhaps hotmail thinks you are a spammer, and is sending it in plain text to protect others.
The sender and the recipient are in each other's address books. I don't really like Gmail, but I've had to get used to switching to Gmail every time I want to send a hyperlink to a friend who has Hotmail or Yahoo.

Interesting, though: If I send links from my Gmail account to Yahoo or Hotmail users, they DO appear as hyperlinks. But not if I send them from my own Yahoo or Hotmail account. They DO appear as hyperlinks if I am in the New Yahoo when I send them, but if mailed from Yahoo Classic, they do not. So it also has something to do with the mail protocol at the point of origin.

Hotmail to Hotmail, never hyperlinked, except selected sites
New Yahoo to Hotmail, always
Old Yahoo to Hotmail, never, except selected sites
Gmail to Hotmail, always.

I googled /hotmail hyperlink/, and found old sites that described an option in which the user can turn off the security feature, and enable hyperlinks. But the new version of Hotmail has now disabled that option.

Nevertheless, Hotmail does transmit Youtube links as hyperlinks (and not most other links), which is the relevant point in the context of this net neutrality thread.
Hotmail may also be screening for mail site of origin, but oddly, they screen out the ones from their own system.

Last week, Hotmail re-designed their entire portal (which they do, apparently, ever 6 months or so), with the emphasis being, as usual, placed on the elimination of all useful or user-friendly features.

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