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Old 05-31-2014, 03:01 PM
 
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Like Jimmy Rogers said in 2009...."the Federal Reserve will keep printing money until they run out of trees".....I see there are still plenty of trees left, so why should I sell.....!!!!!
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Old 05-31-2014, 09:54 PM
 
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Default Diluted Recessions are troublesome in the long run

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investing is easy . no special skills have been needed for 146 years . all you need is a long term perspective and a bunch of plain ole funds and you would have grown a load of money over time doing nothing but letting time do its thing.

it isn't timing the market ,it is time in the market that makes most folks money.

people get this aspect wrong and that is what hurts them.
Hey millennials, don't buy this bullsh*t, we're not in Kansas anymore. The last ~146 years required covert, quasi-legitimate tweaking to stay on track. The amount of tweaking needed today is overt, reckless, NOT LEGITIMATE & NOT sustainable!
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:40 AM
 
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do you ever get tired of your doom and gloom predictions?
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Old 06-01-2014, 04:14 AM
 
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Hey millennials, don't buy this bullsh*t, we're not in Kansas anymore. The last ~146 years required covert, quasi-legitimate tweaking to stay on track. The amount of tweaking needed today is overt, reckless, NOT LEGITIMATE & NOT sustainable!
well to date nothing has changed and 15 year time frames or longer diversified equities have still been the safest asset class despite your crying the sky is falling for years..

only thing cd's and money markets got you was a guaranteed loss after inflation and taxes more often than not.
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:46 AM
 
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do you ever get tired of your doom and gloom predictions?
Gold has already tanked and many are getting butchered who thought it safe to buy anywhere near the peak. Do you think equity investors don't risk feeling that pain also?
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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well to date nothing has changed and 15 year time frames or longer diversified equities have still been the safest asset class despite your crying the sky is falling for years..

only thing cd's and money markets got you was a guaranteed loss after inflation and taxes more often than not.
Haven't cd's done a better job of hedging against inflation when compared with gold and silver the last few years?
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:49 AM
 
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investing in any assets always carry the risk of pain. it goes with the territory but historically it has been time in the markets not timing the markets that has made everything ok.
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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Haven't cd's done a better job of hedging against inflation when compared with gold and silver the last few years?
as far as cd's go "since 1965 in 10 out of 44 years the real rate of return was negative. The worst year was 1979 when the real return was -2.78% and the best year was 1982 when the real return was 9.40%. During that time inflation was very high. From 1967 to 2010 the average real return is 1.91% and the median annual real rate of return is 2.17%."

"Gold appears to have traditionally provided a real average annual compound return of 0 to 3%. The more recent figures for investments held since 2000 to 2009 are not long-term and have been higher but investments in Gold held since 2010 or 2011 have not done well."

but i consider gold insurance and not really a growth asset class. we have had decades of moderate to low inflation which really sits better for the dollar than gold.

we really had only a short term run up of inflation in to territory good for gold since the 1970's..

on the other hand to date equities have been up over every 15 year period .
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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investing in any assets always carry the risk of pain. it goes with the territory but historically it has been time in the markets not timing the markets that has made everything ok.
Did you note the tone of my post as reflecting how the Gloom and Doom has worked out for many and the ho hum to that gloom has worked out for others since the OP from a few years ago.
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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yep....
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