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Old 12-08-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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The question is, can USO and UCO go bankrupt?
If UCO almost becomes worthless, it might make sense for them to discontinue it. The bottom line, nobody invests in leveraged items as a long-term investment. They are meant for short-term trades.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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If UCO almost becomes worthless, it might make sense for them to discontinue it. The bottom line, nobody invests in leveraged items as a long-term investment. They are meant for short-term trades.
Sure, but some people define short term as 5 years, or 2 years, etc. If UCO is at $14.50 today, and dropped to $12.50 in couple of weeks, and go up to $19.00 next year, someone who gets in in few weeks and dump within a year, it's still short term investment.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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Sure, but some people define short term as 5 years, or 2 years, etc. If UCO is at $14.50 today, and dropped to $12.50 in couple of weeks, and go up to $19.00 next year, someone who gets in in few weeks and dump within a year, it's still short term investment.
Less than a year is considered short term, not 5 years. I'm not going to try to convince you because it is your money, I'm not getting paid. I will just leave it as this... you do not hold leveraged ETFs long-term, it's common knowledge. If you don't understand this, than all I can say is good luck and I hope you never experience a bear market because you will be one of the thousands that get killed.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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The last oil bear lasted from 1990 to 1999. It could go down for years to come. Also, alternative fuels are becoming more competitive putting oil's l/t value in question. Lastly, this smells BIG TIME of anchoring here - because oil had a certain value in the past it "looks cheap" because we have our internal anchor set but that has nothing at all to do with reality.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:59 PM
 
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I think if you can't make your picks confidently, with good reason, then you should stick to broad market index funds.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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I think if you can't make your picks confidently, with good reason, then you should stick to broad market index funds.
I am confident that oil price will go up and as a result UCO will bounce back. Once UCO dips down some more, under $12, I will start buying.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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Who says oil is going back over $100? Oil's fair value is around $38.00
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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Who says oil is going back over $100? Oil's fair value is around $38.00
There is a small chance that oil gill go down lower than $50, but there is a bigger chance that it will go back to over $100 within the next 2 years.
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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Good luck holding UCO over 2 year LOL just don't blame Wall Street "Fat Cats" if you lose 99% of your money.
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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Good luck holding UCO over 2 year LOL just don't blame Wall Street "Fat Cats" if you lose 99% of your money.
Losing 99% of your investment in UCO only occurs when and if oil prices stays $30. What are the chances of that happening?
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