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Old 12-29-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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i think everybody has considered buying oil at the bottom. it doesnt really fit with my strategy but im open to throwing a few bucks in it if i think it can give a small bump to my return. however, if something happens where a war with iran may be on the table; im going to open a large position in oil. w successfully got the oil price to shoot up with the 2nd iraq war so its a proven strategy.
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:18 PM
 
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If you got balls Goodrich bonds have a 30% yield and CEO has been buying them at 50- cents on dollar with his own cash, GDP is stock symbol
Some of these companies will cease to exist. They're an exploration company and unless this thing turns around quickly, they could be gone for good.
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:35 PM
 
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I put quite a bit of my investment funds into OIL related ETF's today. It has to go up in the next few years if history is any guide. My friends tell me I am making a mistake and to wait for the bottom, but what is the bottom?

Here is a list of oil and gas ETF's to invest in:

Top 10 Oil & Gas ETFs
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:47 PM
 
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I put quite a bit of my investment funds into OIL related ETF's today. It has to go up in the next few years if history is any guide. My friends tell me I am making a mistake and to wait for the bottom, but what is the bottom?

Here is a list of oil and gas ETF's to invest in:

Top 10 Oil & Gas ETFs


The 80-90s wouldn't have been your friend investing in oil. It could stay down for some time. Production is at or near an all time high and demand is falling
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I'm not as sophisticated as others, but we have another reminder that oil does not follow the normal supply/demand commodity 'curve'. Politics & financial liquidity kind of wreck those things.

I think its time to gather up money and start to target assets that will outperform quickly when things turn. I like operating stocks rather than commodity funds. I got burnt a few years back (find my posts) in oil commodities, but lessons learned. I'm still long some operators, pipelines, and drillers. Very happy that my non-energy assets have continued to climb. But I'm feeling an oil buy in some months down the road.
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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Ouch
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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$35 or less are coming this year imo. stay away from anything e & p and focus on those beaten down companies actually profiting from the decline like refiners.
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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OP here.....
"Oil" is down to $12.24. Me buying the Oil shares has proven to be a big mistake, so far at least.
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Old 01-03-2015, 06:26 AM
 
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OP here.....
"Oil" is down to $12.24. Me buying the Oil shares has proven to be a big mistake, so far at least.
You stated that your investing horizon was long term, so I wouldn't worry about short term price movements. More likely than not, the price of oil will be higher in a couple years. The problem with oil prices is they are highly influenced by collusions (i.e. OPEC) and political turmoil. I bought some UCO looking for a short term gain, held it for 4 days, and sold it for a push.
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Old 01-03-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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Heard something that was quite bearish, the rigs are quickly shutting down and yet production is reaching higher levels. It might be a good time to stick your toe in the water but I would start small and add if oil goes lower. I recently bought into Vanguards energy fund and will add if oil goes to 49-30- and will go all in at the 20's if reaches.
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