Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics > Investing
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-04-2015, 11:11 AM
 
18,547 posts, read 15,570,971 times
Reputation: 16225

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard Beale View Post
With rates still at 0%, there's a lot of malinvestment going on. The S&P 500 is trading at a frothy 19x multiple (historically 14x is the norm).
For anyone with a mortgage looking to park some cash in a risk-free interest-bearing vehicle, put extra cash in your mortgage escrow account. It earns as much as 2% in some states (check with your bank). Your bank will refund you the excess when they re-evaluate your escrow account, but you can start reloading again after the refund.

Don't get caught up in this bubble. We're all hostages to ZIRP & QE policies...basically forcing people to buy stocks to get any sort of yield. Enough already. If you know of other tactics like this, please share them.
You need to correct the P/E ratio for changes in GAAP that have occurred in recent decades:

The S&P's GAAP P/E Ratio Rises Above 19X | Zero Hedge
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-04-2015, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Portal to the Pacific
8,736 posts, read 8,662,779 times
Reputation: 13007
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard Beale View Post
You guys are a stubborn herd. I like it. Okay Okay, I'll buy your Intel & Microsoft shares. Please don't inflate my dollars.

All this inflation is supposedly happening, yet my dollars buy 2 barrels of oil today vs. 1 barrel at this time last year.
Sure I'll sell you some MSFT shares... we get some every year for free (employment compensation perk)...

You think you're so slick for cherry picking the one commodity that has gone down (which I've heard is a manifestation of a political game the US is playing with Russia.. so I've heard...).. what about housing?, milk?, tuition? dining out? piano lessons? coffee?...etc..etc...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-04-2015, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
2,914 posts, read 2,686,358 times
Reputation: 2450
Quote:
Don't get caught up in this bubble. We're all hostages to ZIRP & QE policies...basically forcing people to buy stocks to get any sort of yield.
No. We're not hostages to QE and ZIRP and flight of money from overseas to the US. We're BENEFITING! It has never been easier to make money!

You think stocks are going to crash? OK. Have you ever heard of diversification into bonds????? Have you ever heard the phrase "when stocks fall, money runs to the safety of bonds"????? Have fun sitting on the sidelines. You need to study how a diversified bond ETF /stock ETF portfolio keeps going up through thick and thin....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-04-2015, 07:36 PM
 
519 posts, read 597,339 times
Reputation: 471
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyingsaucermom View Post
Sure I'll sell you some MSFT shares... we get some every year for free (employment compensation perk)...

You think you're so slick for cherry picking the one commodity that has gone down (which I've heard is a manifestation of a political game the US is playing with Russia.. so I've heard...).. what about housing?, milk?, tuition? dining out? piano lessons? coffee?...etc..etc...
Only one commodity has gone down? I don't know what markets you're looking at. They're almost all down significantly - grains, metals, energy. Not only that, currencies vs. the dollar. the USD can buy 25% more Canadian dollars, Euros, AUDs than it could in 2013. More than double the amount of Rubles. And of course, tech & electronics are always getting cheaper.

Housing is a biggie but you're overlooking the cost to borrow. Borrowing $250,000 today at 3.75% will cost the same in interest over 30 yrs as it did to borrow $110,000 @ 7.5% cost in 1999.

If oil stays down here for awhile, it will ripple through all sectors and lower prices on almost everything.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-04-2015, 07:41 PM
 
519 posts, read 597,339 times
Reputation: 471
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big-Bucks View Post
No. We're not hostages to QE and ZIRP and flight of money from overseas to the US. We're BENEFITING! It has never been easier to make money!

You think stocks are going to crash? OK. Have you ever heard of diversification into bonds????? Have you ever heard the phrase "when stocks fall, money runs to the safety of bonds"????? Have fun sitting on the sidelines. You need to study how a diversified bond ETF /stock ETF portfolio keeps going up through thick and thin....
sure, that worked nicely in the past. However, I could see a scenario where that portfolio could still get slaughtered. Severe prolonged stagflation, or a bond market meltdown where the FED loses control, or what happened to Russia in 2014..maybe not likely to happen anytime soon, but any of those scenarios could crush you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics > Investing
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:15 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top