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Old 02-09-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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Yes any new money did fine but as i said if you already had a large portfolio that money pretty much died on the vine for 16 years now.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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Yes any new money did fine but as i said if you already had a large portfolio that money pretty much died on the vine for 16 years now.
So did you ignore what I wrote? I said this is perfect timing for me as we are getting a correction when I am able to really start putting substantial sums of money in.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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Whats yours (strategy)? I am curious.
I see this as an opportunity. I have been buying not he dips. But I do not think the volatility will last longer than 6 months.

Just sheer and pure wishful thinking.
I am retired so my strategy is just sit with our 40/60 mix. If things fall enough i may increase it to 50/50.

A few years of withdrawals in cash make any further planning not needed yet
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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So did you ignore what I wrote? I said this is perfect timing for me as we are getting a correction when I am able to really start putting substantial sums of money in.
And i said as long as markets bounce back you will be fine.

But if we are destined for a long term japan style slump then you would have done better in cash instruments.

We all are invested because we believe long term we will be okay
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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And i said as long as markets bounce back you will be fine.

But if we are destined for a long term japan style slump then you would have done better in cash instruments.

We all are invested because we believe long term we will be okay
If this turns long term like Japan, I'm not even sure cash would be good, you'd want to know who the next US will be and own their currency.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:08 AM
 
Location: City of the Angels
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If this turns long term like Japan, I'm not even sure cash would be good, you'd want to know who the next US will be and own their currency.

It's curious that one doesn't hear anything about the Amero and the North American monetary union anymore.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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This isn't 2000. The P/E ratio is sane.
The S&P 500 P/E ratio is the same as it was in January 2008 after the index had already fallen by 20%. Market looked cheaper then, but the earnings were being corrupted by the inflated value of assets held by financial institutions. There's a bit of cookie jar accounting by large companies which allow them to massage earnings to look good and predictable. If and when a recession hits, they'll start shedding these losses in 'one-time' writedowns. P/E can therefore look very expensive at a market bottom.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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This isn't 2000. The P/E ratio is sane.

This is 2016 and whatever happened in 2000 has no bearing.
P/E ratios or anything else.


I see a market that has barely begun to retreat, and I see a lot of potential bad news on the horizon.
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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So did you ignore what I wrote? I said this is perfect timing for me as we are getting a correction when I am able to really start putting substantial sums of money in.
This is not a correction.
A correction means we go to Dow 12K or below.
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Old 02-09-2016, 02:10 PM
 
Location: City of the Angels
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This is not a correction.
A correction means we go to Dow 12K or below.
No disrespect, just an FYI for perspective.



The 52 week high for the Dow was: 18,351, the price as of right now is : 16,014.38.
That's down 2,337 pts. which is 12.7 %


If the Dow goes down to 12K, that would be a drop of 30% from the 52 week high.



Reference: DJIA Index Chart


Pullback: typically defined as a 5% dip from a recent high, and often times seen as a buying opportunity during an ongoing bull market. For Coogan, a pullback is a “temporary blip of the peak of the market, almost a ‘sigh’ in upward momentum; it’s very short term, and you’re still continuing up in a bull market.”
Correction: usually a 10% move lower from new highs. It’s more severe in nature, but could possibly just be a healthy dip as some investors take profits and others adjust their risk/reward ratios. The question here is whether companies in general still in good shape, or is the stock market a leading indicator of weakness in the overall economy, and will corporate America be the next area to feel weakness in growth.
Despite a correction being jarring for investors, Coogan says for her and other market watchers “it’s still defined as a shorter-term pullback in a bull market, it’s just a little more significant than the pullback that’s less than 10%”
Bear market: a 20% or great tumble in the market. This 20% downturn is “usually something that’s sustained for a couple months,” Coogan says, where from an investor psychology perspective “pessimism breeds pessimism, and you get that continued downward trend, and that can be hard because you don’t know actually when it could stop.” Thus trying to predict the absolute bottom can be very difficult for an investor trying to time the market, but the risk/reward payoff for those that do can be astounding (just look at the run up from 2009 March


Reference : http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/break...201410281.html

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