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Old 03-20-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Looks like economist Brian Barnier, principal at ValueBridge Advisors and founder of FedDashboard.com, completely agrees:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-fe...94426366.html#

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The Fed caused 93% of the entire stock market's move since 2008: Analysis

The bull market just celebrated its seventh anniversary. But the gains in recent years – as well as its recent sputter – may be explained by just one thing: monetary policy.
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Never heard of this Barnier character, but hell, the late Marty Zweig used to tell mathjak that the Federal Reserve is "the dominant factor in determining the market's major direction" during happy hour in the Financial District way back in the 1980s...
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Old 03-20-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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Not me. In fact while martin was credited with calling the 1987 crash he dropped the ball by missing the markets big run up and his clients left him!
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Looks like economist Brian Barnier, principal at ValueBridge Advisors and founder of FedDashboard.com, completely agrees:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-fe...94426366.html#
No issues here. I never follow the FED but it was pretty clear that a mighty bull market had to come after sentiment was in the toilet in 2009 like I've never seen it before. So you participated all this time oin the bull market because of your FED analysis? You must have known everything in advance then.
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:45 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Not me. In fact while martin was credited with calling the 1987 crash he dropped the ball by missing the markets big run up and his clients left him!
I used to subscribe to his letter so I remember he said not to fight the fed.
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:31 AM
 
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he was right . but fighting the fed can mean different things . don't forget when rates rise that is not always a bad thing for markets . markets are more concerened with how fast the rates rise then the fact they go up . rates going up mean inflation is becoming more of an issue and the economy is humming and people are working and spending creating this inflationary environment .

so study's show a slow rate rise does not harm markets .

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Old 03-21-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Accept it guys. Fed manipulation is part of fundamentals. It should be given a significant weight on your forecasting models.


So to say "without the FED, our bulls are nothing but a joke" is quite dismissive of the adaptations made by many people who profited from 2010-2014 (2015 was flat) of the Fed being a part of the fundamental growth/rebound of the stock market.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Accept it guys. Fed manipulation is part of fundamentals. It should be given a significant weight on your forecasting models.


So to say "without the FED, our bulls are nothing but a joke" is quite dismissive of the adaptations made by many people who profited from 2010-2014 (2015 was flat) of the Fed being a part of the fundamental growth/rebound of the stock market.
QE I, II & III. QE did a lot to pump up the markets. How much gains have they made after QE was withdrawn?
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:50 PM
 
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Yeah, it is what it is. Whining about it is a waste of time. Life's not fair, we know that.

So the real question is (or should be): how to best invest and increase one's success in the market, given the various variables in play?
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:51 PM
 
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QE I, II & III. QE did a lot to pump up the markets. How much gains have they made after QE was withdrawn?
Qe was negligible well in advance of the program ending.
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