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Old 04-18-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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blue chip growth , growth company , all did not only better over the 5 year but much better longer term
Well if you want longer term how about 15 years for Fidelity Blue Chip growth versus Vanguard Growth Index?



Is that more of Fidelity funds blowing the doors off index funds?
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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which in both cases still beat buying spy or a total market fund . you made my point .

there are lots of different index's , some are more popular then others , some do better . in order to index you may need to pick the hot index to beat other funds .

in this case taking the most popular indexing route usually quoted here , an s&p 500 fund or total market fund you failed to beat both fbgrx and vigrx.

keep in mind vigrx is 18% midcaps and not comparable to the s&p . fbgrx is about 12% midcaps

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Old 04-18-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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which in both cases still beat buying spy or a total market fund . you made my point .
The point you made I'm contesting is that all popular Fidelity funds have "blown the doors" off index funds over the last 7-8 years.

I'd saying showing Contra lost to SPX over 4, 5, 6, and 7 year timeframes easily refutes your point, and made you suddenly really interested in other funds, certain indexes, and longer timeframes than your initial claim. I only made your point after you made much effort shifting goalposts from your original easily proven false claim.

Your original statement was gross exaggeration and is only supported by disregarding funds that aren't convenient to it.
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