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Yes, it's a "yo-yo". Yes, it's nerve-wracking. But if we're holding DOG and HDGE and so forth, are we accumulating any more money?
The political issue is profoundly disturbing. My impression is that the victory of one of the candidates is indeed "baked in", but that of the opposing candidate would indeed be cataclysmic - not merely for the stock market, but for Western Civilization. So perhaps this whole issue of hedging will merit reassessment. I'm certainly willing to be educated.
I'll take this "breaks on" move in the market as oppose to any crash. Everyone is looking for the SHTF crash when it is more of a slow downturn. Wasn't it suppose to crash in Feb.? How many people lost out on that wiff???
Market is crashing now, it's just so slow you don't see it.
I'll take this "breaks on" move in the market as oppose to any crash. Everyone is looking for the SHTF crash when it is more of a slow downturn. Wasn't it suppose to crash in Feb.? How many people lost out on that wiff???
Market is crashing now, it's just so slow you don't see it.
The market is not crashing now. Not by a longshot.
We're still way over dow 17K
I'll take this "breaks on" move in the market as oppose to any crash. Everyone is looking for the SHTF crash when it is more of a slow downturn. Wasn't it suppose to crash in Feb.? How many people lost out on that wiff???
Market is crashing now, it's just so slow you don't see it.
It's crashing? It's almost at the all time high since existence...
However, could the market crash, sure, but is it crashing right now, nope.
I think the market will go down if either of them win. No magic. Hilary is already baked in.
Sanders still believes he has a shot at the Democratic nomination. Hillary could slide big time if she is indicted for the issues related to her private email server. Trump is a scary dude but he could win. Hitler was at least as scary but he achieved popular acclaim. Trump seems to have similar strategies in blaming the rest of the world and specific religious groups.
No matter who wins, the consequences of this election could be dire. Sanders would be a bloody Presidential period with a Republican Congress clashing with his socialistic platform. Trump could take us anywhere with his rash behavior. Hillary probably just represents another term with nothing accomplished except more of the same.
Sanders still believes he has a shot at the Democratic nomination. Hillary could slide big time if she is indicted for the issues related to her private email server. Trump is a scary dude but he could win. Hitler was at least as scary but he achieved popular acclaim. Trump seems to have similar strategies in blaming the rest of the world and specific religious groups.
No matter who wins, the consequences of this election could be dire. Sanders would be a bloody Presidential period with a Republican Congress clashing with his socialistic platform. Trump could take us anywhere with his rash behavior. Hillary probably just represents another term with nothing accomplished except more of the same.
Who else would you blame for Islamic terrorism besides the Muslims?
Trump is the only candidate with the guts to do what needs to be done, before this country turns into Europe, or worse yet, one of the hell holes in the Middle East.
Sanders still believes he has a shot at the Democratic nomination. Hillary could slide big time if she is indicted for the issues related to her private email server. Trump is a scary dude but he could win. Hitler was at least as scary but he achieved popular acclaim. Trump seems to have similar strategies in blaming the rest of the world and specific religious groups.
No matter who wins, the consequences of this election could be dire. Sanders would be a bloody Presidential period with a Republican Congress clashing with his socialistic platform. Trump could take us anywhere with his rash behavior. Hillary probably just represents another term with nothing accomplished except more of the same.
I'm not saying Trump won win, same with Sanders. But the market thinks Hilary will win.
Without wading too deep into political discussion (this being after all an investing-forum), it seems to me that there's strong correlation between affinity to the following two sets of beliefs:
{the stock market is overvalued, we're heading for a momentous crash, or perhaps even that it's all Ponzi/phony/rigged/delusional}
{support for the Republican "protest" candidates (one of whom is now the presumptive nominee) or the Democratic "protest" candidate}
In other words, those who prefer "establishment" candidates - Republican, or Democratic - tend to view the stock market as a serious and promising long-term investment prospect. They tend to regard America's economic situation as perhaps problematic, but far from dire, let alone apocalyptic. Those who prefer a protest-candidate espouse the opposing view.
Interesting, isn't it?
My views of course are decidedly Establishment, and my behavior as an investor is contingent upon a sort of "return to normalcy", that being the usual long-term rate of return of stock markets in the 20th century. The politician that hankers least for "reform" - be it pro-business or pro-labor, or pro- any great and transformative revision - is, I think, best for the stock market.
The market is essentially flat in the last 18 months in accordance with the Fed's balance sheet. The closing price for the SPX on 12/31/14 was 2059. It falls back when the balance sheet shrinks. It rallies when the Fed settles its purchases of agency mortgage-backed securities to replace securities after they mature and roll off of the balance sheet.
Who else would you blame for Islamic terrorism besides the Muslims?
Trump is the only candidate with the guts to do what needs to be done, before this country turns into Europe, or worse yet, one of the hell holes in the Middle East.
Power hungry people that have recognized the Middle East is currently the perfect area to foster cult followers that they've manipulated using religion?
- poverty
- constant violence
- basically occupied by foreign nations
- oil rich
- governments totally destabilized by those occupying foreign nations
They're the perfect area for any organized power hungry organization to operate. They even got the mighty US of A to perfectly set the area of the world up for them.
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