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Old 11-21-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't seem to have a problem then. As soon as my SELL order is confirmed executed my sales proceeds become immediately available for trading on new securities.

I don't have any settlement lock out when I sell. They settle it as soon as it executes. There are some behind the scenes signs that it's not totally settled but they do let me trade with the money. The behind the scenes part limits me to 2-3 days in moving the money back to my checking or money market account.
I think someone mentions this, but you need to be very careful even with a cash account. You have funds available to trade, but they are not settled funds if you're in a cash account. You have access to the proceeds, but you will need to hold whatever you buy until the proceeds of the previous sell settle before selling that newly bought security. That "behind the scenes" stuff...is called settlement.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Look up free rides, if you keep trading with unsettled funds they would restrict your account
Agree, they need to be careful. But they will restrict ONLY if they sell what they bought with the un-settled funds before those funds settle.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:20 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Anything related to options, margins, etc. is grayed out in my account.
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Old 11-22-2018, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Anything related to options, margins, etc. is grayed out in my account.
That is good, but doesn't mean you won't get a restriction/violation if you violate the good faith rule.
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Old 11-22-2018, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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one analysis that the stock crash is starting...

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Old 11-22-2018, 10:13 PM
 
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one analysis that the stock crash is starting...

That same guy said there would be a BIG BREAKOUT for bitcoin 2 weeks ago... it’s been crashing
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Old 11-23-2018, 06:50 AM
 
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What he says the "market is telling us" is all """old news"""

All the market needs is a reason to justify people buying vs selling...

When he discounts the "nice upward trend" he discounts the lower moves that happened as part of the upward trend...
Saying the "sellers are in control of the market" is self-evident but what was the volume?
Pretty low from what I understand on lot of days when there was selling...

Note that lot of the negative happened after 3 factors occurred
The Fed began raising rates
The Fed began unraveling QE I and II
Trump's tariffs/trade wars got really serious

The upswing also took the new tax policies into account--that euphoria is wearing off because we have seen that companies did not use the benefit of the tax bill to actually "grow" -- as the GOP promised would happen--
No overall large scale wage enhancements--not big capital expenditures coming out of the tax reduction for corporations

If the GOP and the Dems can actually work together to put a bill before Trump that puts money into the economy for infrastructure improvement (even with adding to the debt) then likely that will be viewed as a positive
If Trump and his "advisors" can calm the China tariff policies that are having a huge detrimental impact on not just farmers but businesses small and large--then that is another reason for positive outlook...

Lot of what is happening is because the ETFs are driving lot of the selling with their algorhythims
The rise of the ETFs leverage is something that has been discussed/written about--
Much more volatile trading effect from what I understand---
Maybe not such a good thing...
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Old 11-23-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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The participants in the market realize it's a math problem.. we can't raise rates at the current pace without it having big impacts. Powell has already said he could care less about the stock market.
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The participants in the market realize it's a math problem.. we can't raise rates at the current pace without it having big impacts. Powell has already said he could care less about the stock market.
Because the markets are not the economy.
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lot of what is happening is because the ETFs are driving lot of the selling with their algorhythims
The rise of the ETFs leverage is something that has been discussed/written about--
Much more volatile trading effect from what I understand---
Maybe not such a good thing...
But do you understand why the volatility is being created with the ETF action? This can be a great opportunity if you have the risk tolerance & knowledge to participate in that market action.
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