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Old 04-10-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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not quite. the Chinese promised to lower car tariffs back in november with no action happening.

until we see positive effects and not just talk and threats this ain't over
Well, you know how short some people's memories are...
Still time for market to drop from its almost 300pts gain at this point...
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Trump is so unpredictable and dangerous in his ignorance, normal investing philosophy of ignore market ups and downs and stick with the game plan may not be valid for everyone.
That is an, uh, interesting perspective. I don't share it.

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He is capable of enormous harm in areas we may not yet recognize. The crazy volatility is a symptom. Bogle has said he's never seen anything like this. ..At the very least, holding much higher cash position until Trump is gone is probably wise. ... For now, sitting on cash is not a bad idea.
And yet Eugene Fama, Nobel Prize winning father of modern portfolio theory that Bogle adopts, finds the volatility a non-worrisome consequence of efficient markets. The consequence of efficient markets is that attempting to do something such as hold a much higher cash position is sub-optimal.

At the end of the day, each of us must decide just how much risk we are willing to bear. Once we've decided how much risk we are willing to bear, then and only then should we construct a portfolio of asset classes (including cash) that generate the highest return for that level of risk.

I think in your case you see much more risk in the market than do I.

That's OK.

Going back to first principles, the reason I expect a positive ROI on an investment is because I'm willing to incur a risk that someone else such as you has explicitly declined to take.

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Old 04-10-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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markets are a very efficient mechanism for transferring money from the inpatient to the patient .
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Old 04-10-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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markets are a very efficient mechanism for transferring money from the inpatient to the patient .
LOL...you said inpatient instead of impatient...but somehow ...it kind of fit anyway Watching this market fly around can be dangerous to ones health.
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:17 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The stock market correction that began on January 26 is playing out as expected.

We are about 2 and half months in. Probably closer to the end than the beginning at this point. But we shall see.
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Old 04-10-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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The stock market correction that began on January 26 is playing out as expected.

We are about 2 and half months in. Probably closer to the end than the beginning at this point. But we shall see.
I sold off a small amount of stock today. It had been a dog for several months and it was annoying me. A lot.

I still think that we could see a 30% correction.
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Old 04-10-2018, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Florida & Cebu, Philippines
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Is Trump still president? Why does the market still have some good days while he is still president? It just does not make sense if the Trump haters are correct, hmmmmm... Time will tell who was correct but one thing I am pretty sure of, had Hillary won, then we would likely be at war with Russia, maybe Iran and who knows who else, how would that have played out on the market?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4aIIpCDsLU
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Old 04-10-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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The stock market correction that began on January 26 is playing out as expected.

We are about 2 and half months in. Probably closer to the end than the beginning at this point. But we shall see.
What correction? The drop in the stock markets started when Trump began to threaten a trade war. It drops more every time he makes the same threats or takes some action. If he backs off, the markets at least partially recover. Without the Trump trade war rhetoric, it is likely the markets would have continued the upward march and the DJIA would be about hitting 30,000.
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Old 04-10-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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What correction? The drop in the stock markets started when Trump began to threaten a trade war. It drops more every time he makes the same threats or takes some action. If he backs off, the markets at least partially recover. Without the Trump trade war rhetoric, it is likely the markets would have continued the upward march and the DJIA would be about hitting 30,000.
Na...first big drop had nothing to do with Trump. It was on rising rates and inflation fears..
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Old 04-10-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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the first down round , was on trumps tax cuts when the markets realized they can be quite inflationary and possibly not a good thing like they first thought .
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