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Old 05-06-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why does it matter? The stock market is designed for long term investments. If you are short term then you should consider getting out as the market is not for short term needs.
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Old 05-06-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I'm neither short term or long term. I'm about making money. And there are a lot of indications that the bull market is at, or near the top. If that doesn't concern you, it should. And if the market does crash like it did in 2008 there is no guarantee that Wall Street will get bailed out again.
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Old 05-06-2018, 07:04 PM
 
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I'm neither short term or long term. I'm about making money. And there are a lot of indications that the bull market is at, or near the top. If that doesn't concern you, it should. And if the market does crash like it did in 2008 there is no guarantee that Wall Street will get bailed out again.
Please provide list of " a lot of indications " that the market is at the top
And are we talking weekly top?
Monthly top?
5 year top?
Please let us know
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Old 05-06-2018, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Please provide list of " a lot of indications " that the market is at the top
And are we talking weekly top?
Monthly top?
5 year top?
Please let us know
* Length of this bull market - 9 years
* Major political issues - possible Trump impeachment or resignation
* Skyrocketing government debt
* Huge market swings both up and down over past 3 months
* Bond yields & interest rates are moving up
* Weather patterns that may be reminiscent of the dust bowl of the 1930's
* We are simply due for a 20% correction
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Old 05-06-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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* Length of this bull market - 9 years
* Major political issues - possible Trump impeachment or resignation
* Skyrocketing government debt
* Huge market swings both up and down over past 3 months
* Bond yields & interest rates are moving up
* Weather patterns that may be reminiscent of the dust bowl of the 1930's
* We are simply due for a 20% correction
--Bull markets don't just die of old age. it's not "new news" that the bull market is 9 years old.

--the whole "Trump is going to kill the market" narrative really needs to stop. If we go into WW3 or a major trade war sure. But the probability of either of those is very small.

--Debt is growing , but is still very serviceable at these levels.
this is good article that breaks that down a bit :
https://www.fisherinvestments.com/en...-balance-sheet

--Market swings are here and have always been. Volatility is the price one pays for superior returns over time

--Stocks typically do very well as rates move up. Thats a myth that rates moving higher is bad for stocks. Oh if it were that simple!!

--weather patterns lol..you're joking right?

--20% from the high would be considered a bear market--not a correction. Corrections happen and will always happen. they are healthy. part of investing.


Your indications are not justified.
In the words of Gordon Gekko--"tell me something I don't know"
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:06 PM
 
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* Length of this bull market - 9 years
* Major political issues - possible Trump impeachment or resignation
* Skyrocketing government debt
* Huge market swings both up and down over past 3 months
* Bond yields & interest rates are moving up
* Weather patterns that may be reminiscent of the dust bowl of the 1930's
* We are simply due for a 20% correction
Weather patterns???
Nostradamus have a dog in this fight???
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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We had a banner year last year guys. The market went crazy and it's taking a breather at the moment. US rail traffic is still elevated, everything's aligned. We're just chilling for a bit.
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Weather patterns???
Nostradamus have a dog in this fight???
There are some severe drought conditions in the west. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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--Bull markets don't just die of old age. it's not "new news" that the bull market is 9 years old.

--the whole "Trump is going to kill the market" narrative really needs to stop. If we go into WW3 or a major trade war sure. But the probability of either of those is very small.

--Debt is growing , but is still very serviceable at these levels.
this is good article that breaks that down a bit :
https://www.fisherinvestments.com/en...-balance-sheet

--Market swings are here and have always been. Volatility is the price one pays for superior returns over time

--Stocks typically do very well as rates move up. Thats a myth that rates moving higher is bad for stocks. Oh if it were that simple!!

--weather patterns lol..you're joking right?

--20% from the high would be considered a bear market--not a correction. Corrections happen and will always happen. they are healthy. part of investing.


Your indications are not justified.
In the words of Gordon Gekko--"tell me something I don't know"
RE: Trump - I voted for him and never thought he would crash the market - and he didn't - but he's in some pretty serious trouble right now -- could be impeached if the Dems win the house in 2018 mid terms.

RE: Gekko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF_iorX_MAw
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:01 AM
 
Location: moved
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...* We are simply due for a 20% correction
Let's stipulate that you are correct. Let's further stipulate that this isn't some "flash crash", or "V-shaped recovery", but a significant, severe and protracted decline.

1. How do we know that such a decline is actually impending, as opposed to being merely hypothetically possible?

2. Suppose that a decline has begun. How do we distinguish between another snafu, like February of this year (or say the summer of 1998), and "the real thing"?

3. Suppose that the market has declined by 20%. What do we do then? Do we buy on the dip?

4. Suppose that the market starts to recover. How do we distinguish a "sucker's rally" from the real thing?

5. While all of the above is transpiring, if we're out of the market, what do we do with our cash?
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