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Old 08-29-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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Is Musk actually designing cars? Chances are the answer is no and you should know that so I’m unsure why you’d even bring it up
A person like Musk def gives his input on everything, for sake of argument let’s pretend he gives zero input, he at the very least chose the designer, but we all know he is too OCD to not give his input on the design. No electric car or company is close to Tesla in price, design, performance, taste, supercharging network, etc.

I find the level of hatred very confusing lol. I have a lot of neighbors with Teslas and they all love them, I’ve been talking to them since I was really about to buy one. I’ve also driven the S and 3 and they are amazing. I wouldn’t want to own the stock now, but I love the company and product and I give Musk tons of credit. He is the Steve Jobs of cars.
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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A person like Musk def gives his input on everything, for sake of argument let’s pretend he gives zero input, he at the very least chose the designer, but we all know he is too OCD to not give his input on the design. No electric car or company is close to Tesla in price, design, performance, taste, supercharging network, etc.

I find the level of hatred very confusing lol. I have a lot of neighbors with Teslas and they all love them, I’ve been talking to them since I was really about to buy one. I’ve also driven the S and 3 and they are amazing. I wouldn’t want to own the stock now, but I love the company and product and I give Musk tons of credit. He is the Steve Jobs of cars.

Strange you give him the design credit and then when questioned you are actually clueless as to what input if any he has. After that you then question the level of hatred but entirely skip over the irrational exuberance that you yourself have shown. Strange
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Old 08-29-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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Strange you give him the design credit and then when questioned you are actually clueless as to what input if any he has. After that you then question the level of hatred but entirely skip over the irrational exuberance that you yourself have shown. Strange
Are you okay? I dont understand why you are attacking me for saying I love the company and want to buy one of their cars and that I also like Musk and what he created. You are equally as clueless as you claim he had nothing to do with the design of the cars. Common sense would say Musk had a lot of influence and/or say in the design of the car. If Ford's CEO was in Musk place from the start, Tesla would not look anywhere near the same today nor would it have such amazing features.

Clearly there is something more to this story for you to hate him so much that you attck anyone who likes his products or company.

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Old 08-30-2018, 06:44 AM
 
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Are you okay? I dont understand why you are attacking me for saying I love the company and want to buy one of their cars and that I also like Musk and what he created.
I’m not sure how define attacking but I think you are applying the term incorrectly here

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You are equally as clueless as you claim he had nothing to do with the design of the cars. Common sense would say Musk had a lot of influence and/or say in the design of the car. If Ford's CEO was in Musk place from the start, Tesla would not look anywhere near the same today nor would it have such amazing features.
I’m not sure where you believe I claim Musk had nothing to do with it. I do find it hard to believe a CEO is the one designing cars but I certainly didn’t make the statement you are claiming


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Clearly there is something more to this story for you to hate him so much that you attck anyone who likes his products or company.
You weren’t attacked so take it easy on the dramatics. I don’t hate Musk but he is a terrible CEO imo
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:25 AM
 
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There are people behind the scenes doing all the work that don't really get the credit. Can anyone name Tesla's head of design without looking it up? I can name half a dozen Ford designers from the last 10 years because these people actually are involved with the reveals and regularly appear in media announcements. Tesla is all Musk, and that is a liability. It is why so many executives have left; Musk thinks he can micromanage every aspect of the business and doesn't trust his own talented people to execute.
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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Tesla is all Musk, and that is a liability. It is why so many executives have left; Musk thinks he can micromanage every aspect of the business and doesn't trust his own talented people to execute.

Those who have left up until May 2018

2018

May - Matthew Schwall, director of field performance engineering, exits to join Alphabet Inc's self-driving unit, Waymo. reut.rs/2rIFnxb

April - Jim Keller, head of Autopilot hardware engineering, leaves for Intel to lead its silicon engineering team. reut.rs/2rIZknr

April - Georg Ell, director of Tesla's Western Europe operations, leaves to head UK-based Smoothwall. bit.ly/2rJEKCt

March - Chief Accounting Officer Eric Branderiz exits after joining in October 2016. reut.rs/2rI6OXD

March - Susan Repo, corporate treasurer and vice president of finance, exits to become chief financial officer at another company. bloom.bg/2FFA4HB

February - Jon McNeill, president of global sales and services, leaves to join ride-hailing company Lyft as chief operating officer. reut.rs/2GgaLr6

January - Jason Mendez, director of manufacturing engineering, leaves after more than 12 years. bit.ly/2InKIQO

January - Will McColl, manager of equipment engineering, leaves after seven years. bit.ly/2InKIQO

2017

November - Jon Wagner, director of battery engineering, who joined in 2013 exits to launch a battery and powertrain startup in California. reut.rs/2L3CFu4

September - Diarmuid O'Connell, vice president of business development, departs. reut.rs/2KpjeuJ

August - Kurt Kelty, director of battery technology and then one of the longest serving company executives, exits. He led negotiations with Panasonic on the company's gigafactory in Nevada. bloom.bg/2vhrcSD

July - SolarCity co-founder Peter Rive leaves the company, eight months after Tesla bought the biggest U.S. residential solar panel maker. reut.rs/2Krcnkh

June - Chris Lattner, vice president of autopilot leaves within six months of joining. reut.rs/2rL6l6e

June - SolarCity founder Lyndon Rive leaves the electric vehicle maker. reut.rs/2rJnY6u

May - Arnnon Geshuri, who led HR at Tesla for more than eight years, departs. bit.ly/2IGwKg8

April - Chief Financial Officer Jason Wheeler leaves to pursue public policy projects; replaced by Deepak Ahuja, who served as CFO before Wheeler. read.bi/2wI4Zir

March - Mark Lipscomb, vice president of human resources, departs to join streaming service provider Netflix. bit.ly/2rF3zzw

March - Satish Jeyachandran, director of hardware engineering, leaves after seven years with the company; later joins Waymo. bit.ly/2IloGSs

March - David Nister, vice president of autopilot vision, departs to join chipmaker Nvidia. read.bi/2jWtteA

March - Klaus Grohmann ousted after a clash with CEO Elon Musk over the strategy at Grohmann's firm, which Tesla had acquired in November. Grohmann Engineering helped companies design highly automated factories. reut.rs/2wJjbYF

January - JLM Energy says Ardes Johnson, who worked as director of sales at Tesla Energy, joins as a vice president. bit.ly/2rJUqWh

January - Sterling Anderson, head of Tesla's autopilot system, leaves company. Tesla sued him for trying to recruit company engineers for his new venture while still with Tesla, and in April withdrew the lawsuit after a settlement. reut.rs/2IjRLK9

2016

December - Mateo Jaramillo, vice president of Tesla Energy, leaves after seven years. bit.ly/2wHbGBs

July - Rich Heley, vice president of product technology, departs to join Facebook. bit.ly/2rJnXjb

May - Josh Ensign, vice president of manufacturing, leaves; joins startup Proterra as chief operating officer. read.bi/2IHq4hS

May - Greg Reichow, vice president of production, leaves as the company prepares to launch Model 3, and sharply ramp up production. reut.rs/2InGIQi

April - James Chen, vice president of regulatory affairs and deputy general counsel, leaves to join rival Faraday Future. read.bi/2rI1P8P

March - Ricardo Reyes, vice president of global communications, leaves. bloom.bg/2ImDzUY

March - Michael Zanoni, vice president of finance and worldwide controller, departs to join Amazon. bit.ly/2rHW9eU

January - Chief Information Officer Jay Vijayan leaves Tesla to create his own startup. on.wsj.com/2wG39P7

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKCN1IG2G2

His eyes speak volumes....if they could only tweet.
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Old 09-04-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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Sounds like 5,000 model 3s a week was unsustainable. Hearing last week of August was 4,300.
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Old 09-04-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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Those who have left up until May 2018

2018

May - Matthew Schwall, director of field performance engineering, exits to join Alphabet Inc's self-driving unit, Waymo. reut.rs/2rIFnxb

April - Jim Keller, head of Autopilot hardware engineering, leaves for Intel to lead its silicon engineering team. reut.rs/2rIZknr

April - Georg Ell, director of Tesla's Western Europe operations, leaves to head UK-based Smoothwall. bit.ly/2rJEKCt

March - Chief Accounting Officer Eric Branderiz exits after joining in October 2016. reut.rs/2rI6OXD

March - Susan Repo, corporate treasurer and vice president of finance, exits to become chief financial officer at another company. bloom.bg/2FFA4HB

February - Jon McNeill, president of global sales and services, leaves to join ride-hailing company Lyft as chief operating officer. reut.rs/2GgaLr6

January - Jason Mendez, director of manufacturing engineering, leaves after more than 12 years. bit.ly/2InKIQO

January - Will McColl, manager of equipment engineering, leaves after seven years. bit.ly/2InKIQO

2017

November - Jon Wagner, director of battery engineering, who joined in 2013 exits to launch a battery and powertrain startup in California. reut.rs/2L3CFu4

September - Diarmuid O'Connell, vice president of business development, departs. reut.rs/2KpjeuJ

August - Kurt Kelty, director of battery technology and then one of the longest serving company executives, exits. He led negotiations with Panasonic on the company's gigafactory in Nevada. bloom.bg/2vhrcSD

July - SolarCity co-founder Peter Rive leaves the company, eight months after Tesla bought the biggest U.S. residential solar panel maker. reut.rs/2Krcnkh

June - Chris Lattner, vice president of autopilot leaves within six months of joining. reut.rs/2rL6l6e

June - SolarCity founder Lyndon Rive leaves the electric vehicle maker. reut.rs/2rJnY6u

May - Arnnon Geshuri, who led HR at Tesla for more than eight years, departs. bit.ly/2IGwKg8

April - Chief Financial Officer Jason Wheeler leaves to pursue public policy projects; replaced by Deepak Ahuja, who served as CFO before Wheeler. read.bi/2wI4Zir

March - Mark Lipscomb, vice president of human resources, departs to join streaming service provider Netflix. bit.ly/2rF3zzw

March - Satish Jeyachandran, director of hardware engineering, leaves after seven years with the company; later joins Waymo. bit.ly/2IloGSs

March - David Nister, vice president of autopilot vision, departs to join chipmaker Nvidia. read.bi/2jWtteA

March - Klaus Grohmann ousted after a clash with CEO Elon Musk over the strategy at Grohmann's firm, which Tesla had acquired in November. Grohmann Engineering helped companies design highly automated factories. reut.rs/2wJjbYF

January - JLM Energy says Ardes Johnson, who worked as director of sales at Tesla Energy, joins as a vice president. bit.ly/2rJUqWh

January - Sterling Anderson, head of Tesla's autopilot system, leaves company. Tesla sued him for trying to recruit company engineers for his new venture while still with Tesla, and in April withdrew the lawsuit after a settlement. reut.rs/2IjRLK9

2016

December - Mateo Jaramillo, vice president of Tesla Energy, leaves after seven years. bit.ly/2wHbGBs

July - Rich Heley, vice president of product technology, departs to join Facebook. bit.ly/2rJnXjb

May - Josh Ensign, vice president of manufacturing, leaves; joins startup Proterra as chief operating officer. read.bi/2IHq4hS

May - Greg Reichow, vice president of production, leaves as the company prepares to launch Model 3, and sharply ramp up production. reut.rs/2InGIQi

April - James Chen, vice president of regulatory affairs and deputy general counsel, leaves to join rival Faraday Future. read.bi/2rI1P8P

March - Ricardo Reyes, vice president of global communications, leaves. bloom.bg/2ImDzUY

March - Michael Zanoni, vice president of finance and worldwide controller, departs to join Amazon. bit.ly/2rHW9eU

January - Chief Information Officer Jay Vijayan leaves Tesla to create his own startup. on.wsj.com/2wG39P7

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKCN1IG2G2

His eyes speak volumes....if they could only tweet.
Just wait until the pressure really kicks up as competition comes online.
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor MI
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With the stock bouncing around 292-296 this morning I figure Elon is due to tweet some vaguely spectacular promise any minute now 5...4...3...2...1......................
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Old 09-04-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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We are now down about $100 from the 52 week high, hovering around $290. I wonder if it is down on the news of the new Mercedes SUV EV to be revealed later this evening?
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