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Old 09-07-2018, 12:37 PM
 
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Remember when the experts predicted a recession in 2017.. and in 2016... and in 2015............ Great Depression 2 in 2011?! Lol

I know a few people who didn't invest back in 2010 - 2015 even though it was clear the bear market ended. They were waiting for the "big one." Some of them are still waiting Haha...
Exactly lol, ever since end of 2009 they have been predicting crashes etc
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Old 09-07-2018, 12:45 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Exactly lol, ever since end of 2009 they have been predicting crashes etc
It's like 9/11. The big catastrophe happens when everybody least expects it to.

By the time people are bracing for it to happen again, it's already far gone in the rear view mirror.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Sputnik Planitia
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Even with trade talks the market is doing great.
Unfortunately not my portfolio, currently I have 50% domestic equities, 20% international and 30% bonds. This allocation is just killing me because YTD International is getting hammered and bonds are down as well so 50% of my portfolio is just going to hell on a daily basis despite 10% upside on the other half. My YTD overall return is only 2%
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:04 PM
 
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Unfortunately not my portfolio, currently I have 50% domestic equities, 20% international and 30% bonds. This allocation is just killing me because YTD International is getting hammered and bonds are down as well so 50% of my portfolio is just going to hell on a daily basis despite 10% upside on the other half. My YTD overall return is only 2%
I have the same allocation except 10 percent REIT and 20 percent bonds. Its international ..its just getting roasted..day after day. The HSI INDEX is down damn near 20 percent this year! PROBLEM is I hate to reallocate when we know INTERNATIONAL will rebound eventually.
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Old 09-08-2018, 04:41 AM
 
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Unfortunately not my portfolio, currently I have 50% domestic equities, 20% international and 30% bonds. This allocation is just killing me because YTD International is getting hammered and bonds are down as well so 50% of my portfolio is just going to hell on a daily basis despite 10% upside on the other half. My YTD overall return is only 2%
as of last night i show the fidelity insight models as:

growth model-100% equities up 9.99%

growth and income model 63% equities up 5.04%

income model down .60% 24% equities .

sector model up 9.13%
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:34 AM
 
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Due for a correction. If you have money to invest, wait until it occurs.
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Does anyone else think that once the trade talks are settled, the market is going to explode to the upside?

Yes, though I don't think the settled flag gets to be waved until President Pence is waving it. We still need to do the mania round this upturn.
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Old 09-08-2018, 06:25 AM
 
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Due for a correction. If you have money to invest, wait until it occurs.
well look at 1982 . p/e's doubled in one year . investors were complaining how over valued markets were . so they stayed on the sidelines . who knew it was the start of the biggest bull market in history .
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Due for a correction. If you have money to invest, wait until it occurs.
I remember when that one tool was in here saying over and over to get out of the market because 18k was too high and due for a correction.
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I'm in a dilemma. I'm at the age where I want to scale back risk after being extremely aggressive for the majority of my investing timeline. I also understand all the basics such as past performance will not necessarily repeat and trying to time the market is the action of a fool.

My international allocation is just been killing me, 10 down years and I've had enough. So I dialed back on those investments and put the funds into places like Wellington, Total Stock Market ETF and a conservative bond fund. I do this with the full understanding that no sector stays down forever and international is bound to bounce back, but I'm tired of waiting. I'm not so much trying to maximize profits as I am mitigating risk.
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