I pulled everything out of the market, into cash today (sell, company)
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That's demonstrably untrue. A $10,000 investment in the S&P 500 on 1/1/18 would be worth $11,072.03 as of 5/7/19.
yes, from 1/1/18 that would be true, but I think he meant from the highs in 1/26/2018 would be close to flat.
Infact, today we closed just 10 points higher than the Jan 26, 2018 highs.
Even if we take Feb 1 as the starting point we are just 2% higher or negative in inflation adjusted terms to today's close... so Feb-May is a 15 month negative real period! Add in dividends and it would be close to zero.
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Originally Posted by NewbieHere
Market recovers nicely today.
You call that a recovery? LOL, S&P 500 was 0.14% lower... and Small Caps went into a nosedive, 0.8% down... Small Caps are a leading indicator so more market trouble ahead, brace! I think we're going down like a roller coaster from here...
When it comes to investing your money, you have limited choices anyway and they all have risks. Real estate? Could be ok or could be a nightmare. Stocks, bonds: deal with corrections and hold on. CD.s T-Bills: they won't keep up with inflation so you are losing money slowly. Risky stuff: gold, bitcoin, antiques, art - roll the dice. Probably the only real way to go is index funds with a long time frame. And hope the global financial system is stable.
Again that depends what you have access to. For you that makes sense, for me it doesn’t. As long as I have access to commercial real estate investments that are much better performing, I’d go with that. I think for the average person you’re entirely correct I’m just pointing out there are other options that make good sense. For some people investing in their own companies would be money better spent than an index fund, for instance. That’s not true of my company as we haven’t really identified any need for extra capital. If I had, I’d pour money into it for the higher ROI but advertising methods we have used haven’t shown a positive return.
I had lots of real estate both resi and commercial in Manhattan but I look at that as a business which it really is ...business’s are us working for our money ...passive investing in equities and bonds is your money working for you ... we take the money we make in real estate and put it in our portfolios
I had lots of real estate both resi and commercial in Manhattan but I look at that as a business which it really is ...business’s are us working for our money ...passive investing in equities and bonds is your money working for you ... we take the money we make in real estate and put it in our portfolios
I understand what you’re saying, but again not my situation. I’m a minority investor (as small as 0.8% and as much as 11.5%) in a variety of businesses, none of which I have one ounce of control over. I’m sent the balance sheets and accounting reports and distributions, but that’s it. Income doesn’t come more passive
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