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11-19-2008, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sonarrat
If you want to make money right now, short the guys who aren't hurting yet. Wal-Mart comes to mind. They keep coming up with increased profits.. that will end soon as more and more people run out of money.
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Sorry, but are you nuts? In bad times, people are going to buy necessities only, and Wal-Mart is the place they will flock to (if you buy into all that fundamental stuff). A stock like WMT is not even a potential short stock.
For the record, I don't own WMT and probably never will, because the stock doesn't meet my buying criteria.
Last edited by davidt1; 11-19-2008 at 03:55 PM..
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11-19-2008, 03:22 PM
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Location: Norman, OK
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I'm thinking the market hits a deep (maybe not THE) bottom after New Years when the 2008 Q4 reports and earnings come out. Pretty safe bet they're gonna look like s***.
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11-19-2008, 06:38 PM
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Location: Rockland County New York
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Originally Posted by normanguy45
I'm thinking the market hits a deep (maybe not THE) bottom after New Years when the 2008 Q4 reports and earnings come out. Pretty safe bet they're gonna look like s***.
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Norm I feel you are right.
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11-19-2008, 06:58 PM
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Location: Charleston, SC
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YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON!
If the DOW breaks 7800 tomorrow it is a technical support line which could take it down to the 6000-7000 range.
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11-19-2008, 07:17 PM
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Location: Los Angeles Area
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Originally Posted by Lulu101
Keep drinking that sweet nepenthe. Let blissful oblivion cloud your mind.
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Huh? Do you think I said something inaccurate? You can make millions off a little in options, shorting etc. Point being if you really think you are correct about the direction of the market, they should leverage up and make some real money.
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11-19-2008, 07:24 PM
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Location: Los Angeles Area
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Oh geez, didn't realize the market tanked today until just now. I only have a few thousand left in equities so I stopped looking at the equity markets all the time, its depressing.
2 years ago I thought the DOW wouldn't go much below 10,000, but I didn't bet any money on this prediction it was just really an educated guess. I'm really glad I don't have much in equities...its starting to seem like there has really been a 2 decade long bubble in stocks.
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11-19-2008, 07:54 PM
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Location: Keller, TX
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Originally Posted by Humanoid
Huh? Do you think I said something inaccurate? You can make millions off a little in options, shorting etc. Point being if you really think you are correct about the direction of the market, they should leverage up and make some real money.
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+1
Calls on DIG or even ERX, June calls on UYG (going for a song), Calls on DIA, QLD, URE, SAA, etc.
I would probably do a straddle/strangle, however (buying calls AND puts). Personally, I'm not holding anything long term except a few $20 strike AMR call LEAPS. Besides, the 120% gains in one day on index puts are mostly happening on the November and December puts... 
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11-20-2008, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Woof Woof Woof!
Okay, Sheri257,
How do you feel today? Are you happy you jumped in to buy those stocks?
This is a fools market right now.
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Yeah .... ya got me. Obviously I wish I had bought at 7800 instead of 8700 but oh well ... I'll just buy some more and lower my basis.

Last edited by sheri257; 11-20-2008 at 08:15 AM..
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11-20-2008, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sheri257
Yeah .... ya got me. Obviously I wish I had bought at 7800 instead of 8700 but oh well ... I'll just buy some more and lower my basis.

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Actually you proclaimed on the morning of November 5th you were getting back in the market when it was at 9625. The market has dropped 19% since then. Basing it on the S&P 500, you got in at 1005, it is now at 785. That is a 22% loss. You are bullish on Real Estate too, correct?
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11-20-2008, 08:45 AM
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Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Originally Posted by Winkelman
Actually you proclaimed on the morning of November 5th you were getting back in the market when it was at 9625. The market has dropped 19% since then. If we break 7800 you will have an even lower basis to brag about!
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Don't you know that it's human nature to boast about the hits and forget about the misses?..... 
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