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Old 07-01-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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Being considered for a job with IBM in Dubuque, Iowa. There doesn't seem to be a large African American Population. What's social climate of the City?
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:56 PM
 
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Hi Syth,

I am a recent transplant (moved here from Washington, DC a little over a year ago). While Dubuque is not a big place, people here seem to have relatively open minds about race (although I cannot say the same for religion--people are very conservative Catholic here. Don't be alarmed by all of the anti-abortion signage everywhere!) IBM itself is a fairly diverse workplace from what I can tell, and generally speaking people in Dubuque are friendly and neighborly. There is a small inner-city type area on and around Central Avenue, but other than that most of the neighborhoods are more white than they are anything else. Overall I'd say its a fairly tolerant place, not counting the very conservative religion.

Personally I have not found it easy to meet people here, as many Dubuquers are rather closed off to "newcomers," but I do not believe it is a function of race, creed, color, or sexual orientation--it's just the way people grow up here, being wary of outsiders. Overall its a little city in transition, and the more talented and diverse workforce we can attract the better. I'd be happy to answer other questions if you have any. Good luck!
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:58 AM
 
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Being considered for a job with IBM in Dubuque, Iowa. There doesn't seem to be a large African American Population. What's social climate of the City?
Your social climate will be largely controlled by IBM. GDF in Dubuque is 24/7 center, I don't know what your job or position is, but many tech IT positions have overtime night/weekend and 7 day rotating 24h standby shifts.

If you look for recreation, I recommend Galena, Madison, near there. If you look for big city stuff, Chicago is 3.5 hours away, Minneapolis being 5 hours away.

A good tip: Wherever you move to live, you will need a reliable internet connection to do work overtime from home (you don't wanna come at 2am to Roshek Building). Get DSL from CenturyLink or if you decide to get cable from Mediacom for faster speeds, add dsl for backup (its cheap ) or cellular (3G/4G). If you have smartphone or advanced feature phone you already have the latter option. Because believe me, Mediacom is a ghetto cable/ISP provider (they have outages or peak slowdowns). Many people who live there opt out for DirecTV for TV portion.

If you're used to eating out instead cooking at home, you need to start learning and planning your own food. For that reason look for an apartment that has good kitchen stove and refrigerator. A lot of apartments, particularly cheaper have those old ones from 60, avoid those like hell. Takes very long for stove to warm up or refrigerator does not maintain even temperature at all shelves. Botton gets warm while top freezing. IBM in Dubuque does not have cafeteria and the food sold around and in Roshek bulding is for most part horrible unless you go to Cafe Manna Java. There are no salads there, Hyvee solds unhealthy salads in that area (they all have bacon). So you will need to make your own. It will cost you less, and it will be cheaper.

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Old 07-07-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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Weird. First it's the chiming bells of downtown Dubuque, and now it's too much bacon on the Hy-Vee salads. You have the most random complaints about things.

I'd say he's lined up a pretty convincing arguement of why Dubuque sucks. If you move to Madison or Galena instead, you won't have to tolerate as much bacon on your salads.
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Old 07-07-2012, 07:20 AM
 
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Weird. First it's the chiming bells of downtown Dubuque, and now it's too much bacon on the Hy-Vee salads. You have the most random complaints about things.

I'd say he's lined up a pretty convincing arguement of why Dubuque sucks. If you move to Madison or Galena instead, you won't have to tolerate as much bacon on your salads.
And why he would want to limit his activities to Dubuque only? Galena is not far away. Its true Hyvee only has salads with bacon from prepackaged section. They do have salad bar though where you have more choices. But if someone works night shift he won't have access to it because the bar salad is open only during peak hours. Hyvee from youre town might be better. To assume all stores from one chain are the same is a kind of naive.

Thats why Syth, never make decision about what to eat in a last minute. Make sure your refrigerator is full DMRyan may not understand it because he probably never worked as an IBMer 60+ hours including night shifts in Dubuque but I know this feeling.

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Old 07-07-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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When did I ever say he had to limit his activities to only what was found in Dubuque? Flipping the arguement on you, why can't you list any of the positive recreational amenities or things to do in Dubuque, Iowa too? I know they exist!
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Old 07-07-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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Yeah, but you only talk about DBQ, not what's around it, do you? The only positive recreational activities I can think of is small museums like aquarium or jail or cruise on the river. And two casinos Mystique and Jo Diamond. But no matter what you paint Dubuque is a small town. If OP is from a city or metro suburbs and into city stuff he won't find it in DBQ. Within Iowa, only Des Moines has some of it. But since DM is 3 hours away from DBQ, he might as well go to Chicago. If he is more into outdoor green activities, Galena is perfect for it. It doesn't mean DBQ doesn't have it, but Galena has more of it. It has forest preserves. There is Chestnut Mountain and Eagle Ridge Resort in beautiful countryside with forest.
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Old 07-07-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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Ok, I'll just go ahead with this:

The Dubuque area (including Galena and SW Wisconsin) is beautiful.

Dubuque Riverfront:


Mines of Spain:


Eagle Point Park:


Maquoketa Caves:


Crystal Lake Cave:


Sundown Mountain Skiing:


Fenlon Place Elevator:
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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I would not move here for a job with IBM. We were just told no raises this year. Most have been here 3 years working for these jerks. Their profits are through the roof and we are getting fisted yet again. Mt advice is if you have not moved here yet, don't do it. Another major point is the fact that IBM signed a 5 year lease with an option for an additional 5 years and they have not signed that additional 5 year lease. They are waiting to see if the city will continue to give them major tax incentives first. Doubt a democratic mayor will grant more tax incentives to IBM, so I think IBM will leave Dubuque sooner than most believe. The company will offer you no growth potential and a horrible work environment. You can make more at any help desk in most other US cities. Yes there are some IBM brown nosers who still think the sun will shine on them someday and those morons are laughed at. Most have stopped adhering to any GDF process and are purposely making major mistakes just to hurt IBM. 99% of the people there (direct hires) are looking elsewhere for a job. The final insult is how IBM pays these contractors from Artech $47-$60 per hr while most other direct hires are making $15-$20 per hr. And yes, we have to train those moron contractors because they have no clue for the most part.
Just my 2 cents.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:47 AM
 
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I would not move here for a job with IBM[...] The final insult is how IBM pays these contractors from Artech $47-$60 per hr while most other direct hires are making $15-$20 per hr. And yes, we have to train those moron contractors because they have no clue for the most part.
Just my 2 cents.
Wow good advice. What you said is true. I made more as an intern in college than what I have made per hour in IBM. One of ibmers even joke, Dubuque is a city where IBMers come to from big cities to die.

As to you DMRyan, you posted pictures of places outside city limit in favor of your argument. Sundown Mountain is in Asbury, not in Dubuque. And all of those places are tourist places except the ski resort. How many timer per year OP will go there? I don't think every week or everyday. Does anyone in Chicago visits top floor of Sears (Willis) tower every week? Dubuque is a fine place for tourist for visit, but when it comes to living its a different thing. Its one thing to visit a city for pleasure or have there a second mortgage for vacation and another thing to live there whole year.

Now lets see if you can do these things in Dubuque?
- go to organic grocery store to buy fresh veggies and frutis, fresh bread (non-frozen, straight from oven)
- order shushi
- go to Starbucks (corporate, not in-store franchise like Target or Hyvee).
- Go to Super Target for groceries that occupy half building
- See comedians who travel around the country like Jerry Seinfeld,
- Watch baseball, soccer, football (national, not college or high school).
- water ski
- go to full service gym that includes lockerooms with showers, fresh free towels, basketball courts, swimming pool, rock climbing wall, sauna, massage, spa with main service open 24h.
- order from ANYWHERE chinese food that is ACTUALLY really SPICY
- order standalone burrito from place where you watch them put ingredients in and roll, where you control what to put in and what not
- go to IMAX movie theater (nor AMC nor other theater in DBQ has IMAX)
- get legal free help on low-income (Dubuque or Iowa restricts litigation/individual rights matters only to seniors)
- drive straight through 10 blocks anytime of day or night without stopping at each intersection (try that on Locust)
- support LGBT rights without getting stereotypes (festivals, pride marathons, etc),
- fly to New York from a local airport for less than $200 one way
- access interstate highways with less than 30 min of drive from home
- attend rock band and metallic concerts
- copy confidential documents by yourself outside workplace in place like Fedex Office (Kinko's)
- mail priority or express mail from postal service using APS anytime, any day including Sundays.
- shop at upscale department store like Macys or Nordstrom
- go to at&t store with less than 30 min from home for service support with your cell phone
- meet people very open to outsiders
- find attractive slim girls (out of college) with full white teeth
- go to Einstein Bagels
- etc etc...
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