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Old 01-25-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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^^^^^

The pre-requisite Freudian explanations when what is more obvious than broad daylight - simply isn't received well.

Only in Iowa.
No, I think the explanations would occur in other states too.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Branson, Missouri
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Funny how there are people on the Iowa board saying southern Iowa has a "light southern accent". Then we have people on the Missouri Board saying how the northern Missouri counties that border Iowa are so northern, and they have a very midwestern accent. I guess it is all relative to where you are from. I am from Branson and we have lots of tourists from Iowa. I have always found them to have either very neutral accents, or northern minnesota-like accents. I am aware most of us down here have southern accents to you.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Funny how there are people on the Iowa board saying southern Iowa has a "light southern accent". Then we have people on the Missouri Board saying how the northern Missouri counties that border Iowa are so northern, and they have a very midwestern accent. I guess it is all relative to where you are from. I am from Branson and we have lots of tourists from Iowa. I have always found them to have either very neutral accents, or northern minnesota-like accents. I am aware most of us down here have southern accents to you.
It's definitely somewhat relative. I grew up in west-central Illinois and any time I would travel to Chicago they would assume I was from 'way down south because of my "accent".
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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It's definitely somewhat relative. I grew up in west-central Illinois and any time I would travel to Chicago they would assume I was from 'way down south because of my "accent".
Yes, it is hit and miss with that southern accent. I knew a guy that I thought was from Alabama or Mississippi because of his strong southern accent. He was actually from St Louis!
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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as far as I know Iowa is classified to be one of the states that predominantly has the General American accent
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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It's definitely somewhat relative. I grew up in west-central Illinois and any time I would travel to Chicago they would assume I was from 'way down south because of my "accent".
I must have hit "submit" before I finished my thought. Anyway, I also meant to say that when I would visit southern Illinois the folks down there assumed I was from the Chicago area, again because of my "accent".
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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^ The bottom two tiers of counties have a light sourthern draw. The top two (maybe more?) have the light upper Midwest accent. I'm from the latter, and people here in Des Moines often guess that I'm from "up north".
That is a south midland accent not a southern accent. Found across missouri and kansas, much of illinois, indiana, and ohio
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Branson, Missouri
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That is a south midland accent not a southern accent. Found across missouri and kansas, much of illinois, indiana, and ohio
The South Midland dialect region follows the Ohio River in a generally southwesterly direction, moving across from Kentucky, Southern Indiana, and Southern Illinois to southern Missouri, Arkansas, southern Kansas, and Oklahoma, west of the Mississippi river. So no, you are incorrect.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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The South Midland dialect region follows the Ohio River in a generally southwesterly direction, moving across from Kentucky, Southern Indiana, and Southern Illinois to southern Missouri, Arkansas, southern Kansas, and Oklahoma, west of the Mississippi river. So no, you are incorrect.
Maybe after you look at these maps, you'll see the South Midland dialect I'm referring to. And maybe you'll quit trying to start these ridiculous fights. I am referring to the South Midland dialect mapped out by the University of Pennsylvania. This is the most widely accepted study of English. Google "South Midland" dialect and you will almost exclusively get maps modeled after this.

NYC dialect samples

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Old 02-14-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Yes, it is hit and miss with that southern accent. I knew a guy that I thought was from Alabama or Mississippi because of his strong southern accent. He was actually from St Louis!
Being from St. Louis myself, I can tell you that if that guy sounded the way he did, he is a true anomaly to this city of our's. He may not have been born and raised in St. Louis, though, even if he was from there. If he was, he is a true anomaly. St. Louis dialect is neutral saving exactly one type of pronunciation. Here are a few examples of it. Forty="farty" Quarter="Quawrter".

Here is what a linguistic study had to say about the St. Louis accent: Go on the site and click on "Midland" dialects if you can find them. The quote is that "St. Louis is a city located squarely in the South Midland region, but it has a long been a center of Northern linguistic influence." St. Louis is currently undergoing the Northern Cities Shift.

Overall, I'm not discounting your experience at all...simply trying to tell you that you encountered a guy who sounds nothing like the area he is from. The site is listed below.

http://www.ling.upenn.edu/phono_atla....html#Heading2
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