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Old 02-03-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Calera, AL
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Southern culture, IMHO, is cotton and tobacco fields. Baptist churches on almost any given street corner. NFL taking a backseat to college football. NASCAR. Barbecued pork products, grits, and lots of fried food. Blues and country music.

Iowa grows corn and soybeans. Hardly any Baptists call Iowa home - mostly Catholics, Lutherans and Methodists. College football is very big in Iowa, yes, but it gets much stiffer competition from the NFL (even though no NFL team calls Iowa home). Pork products in Iowa are tenderloin sandwiches and bacon. And the past couple of decades, Iowa has gotten a reputation as being heavy-metal crazy.

Iowa culture is Midwestern through-and-through seven days a week, and twice on Sundays. It surely adds its own seasonings to the mix, but calling any part of Iowa "southern" is silly. The southern 1/5th of the state may offer hints of being in the Lower Midwest, but it's another flavor of the Midwest and not something drastically distinct.
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: KCMO
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I don't know that Iowa is more rural than Missouri but it's not just one thing that defines a culture. In the case of the south though, the poverty levels do play a big role in that. Along with the extreme poverty you find a lack of education which then turns into a lifestyle. Iowa is a far more educated state than Missouri and that is a big defining factor. The emphasis put on education is a lot different as well. That is just part of the "southern" feel to Missouri. While it certainly isn't Mississippi southern, it's a lot closer to the culture and lifestyle in Mississippi then it is to Iowa or MN or WI...
Missouri actually has some of the best high school graduation rates, and I wouldn't call the poverty in Missouri "extreme". Iowa is indeed more rural than Missouri, I mean seriously, its KC and St. Louis vs little Des Moines.

I also don't see how a state like Missouri, which received people from the great migration, could be called a true southern state. I mean, Mizzou had their first black football player in 1958.

Most people I know think of Iowa as a small farm state. I don't know of anyone who considers Iowa as "the north" or as "yankees."
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Old 02-03-2014, 11:14 AM
 
Location: KCMO
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Southern culture, IMHO, is cotton and tobacco fields. Baptist churches on almost any given street corner. NFL taking a backseat to college football. NASCAR. Barbecued pork products, grits, and lots of fried food. Blues and country music.
Good point. You'll see in the south that Alabama and LSU are bigger than the Falcons and probably the Saints (though the Saints have a descent national following). Missouri has two NFL teams, so theres some division, but in Missouri the Chiefs are still a big deal. Now, when you go south, Arkansas football is a big deal!
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Old 02-03-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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Missouri actually has some of the best high school graduation rates, and I wouldn't call the poverty in Missouri "extreme". Iowa is indeed more rural than Missouri, I mean seriously, its KC and St. Louis vs little Des Moines.

I also don't see how a state like Missouri, which received people from the great migration, could be called a true southern state. I mean, Mizzou had their first black football player in 1958.

Most people I know think of Iowa as a small farm state. I don't know of anyone who considers Iowa as "the north" or as "yankees."
Missouri consistently ranks among the lowest in educational standards for just about everything vs Iowa being on of the top year after year....

Graduating kids is great....if they have learned anything and based on the ACT scores in Missouri...
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Old 02-03-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: KCMO
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Missouri consistently ranks among the lowest in educational standards for just about everything vs Iowa being on of the top year after year....

Graduating kids is great....if they have learned anything and based on the ACT scores in Missouri...
It seems that rural states like Iowa, North Dakota, Nebraska, etc do better on those "ranking the 50 states" lists than states like Missouri, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Michigan. Maybe it has something to do with population. Nonetheless, its not enough to make a state southern.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:30 PM
 
Location: KCMO
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Graduating kids is great....if they have learned anything and based on the ACT scores in Missouri...
Waaaaaaait a second, according to this link https://www.act.org/newsroom/data/2013/states.html

Missouri is actually 23rd nationally with the ACT scores, better than Nebraska, Illinois, Michigan, and about even with a few other Midwestern states.
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Old 02-22-2014, 05:57 AM
 
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Northern Missouri isn't the South per se, but the southern influences are QUITE SIGNIFICANT compared to anything in the central and upper Midwest without a doubt. Des Moines vs northern Missouri is quite a divergent comparison as they have next to no similarities. Also, northern Missouri is one of the most clannish and closed off regions in the entire US and has a very awful economy with terrible rates of poverty.
Northwestern Missouri has no southern influences that I've seen. Nor would one even notice they left Iowa if not for a road sign. Maybe the north central and northeast parts of Missouri qualify, I don't know about that. Some of the towns in southern Iowa are no jewels of prosperity either. Centerville, Iowa lost nearly 6.7 percent of it's population between 2000 and 2010. Speaking of clannish, northern Iowa has some towns like that too. But not all are that way.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: IN
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Northwestern Missouri has no southern influences that I've seen. Nor would one even notice they left Iowa if not for a road sign. Maybe the north central and northeast parts of Missouri qualify, I don't know about that. Some of the towns in southern Iowa are no jewels of prosperity either. Centerville, Iowa lost nearly 6.7 percent of it's population between 2000 and 2010. Speaking of clannish, northern Iowa has some towns like that too. But not all are that way.
Northern Missouri has a number of counties with poverty rates above 20%. Iowa does not have the same level of poverty.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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I grew up in Iowa, in southern part of the state. Influences from the south? Practically? None.
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