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Old 12-30-2007, 09:53 PM
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I have no desire to step into the Iowa forum and get into politics. I like to visit because I spent time there and it is nice to see how things are going in the state since I was last there. I have no political agenda. I guess you do have your share of those that are visting the forum to see what the concensus is. My thoughts were directed toward Romney taking his marching orders from Salt Lake City. I am positive that will never happen. I often wonder why no one asked if Henry Reid would do the same thing. But then they never voted for him did they. As the head of the Senate he is also a Mormon, just one that sits on the other side of the aisle from where most Mormon national leaders would sit.
What is wrong with having a Mormon in the White House? If Romney can lead the country well and conducts himself well, there should not be too many problems. If he can bring hope and optimism to the country and get the country back into the black regarding the budget and in the right direction economically and other aspects, it would be great. I am not a Mormon. But, common', how about some religious toleration here. Mormons can be just as good of leaders as Baptists, Catholics, Methodists, and Lutherans. I think that Romney is one who can bring a spark of optimism back to the good old USA and is one of the better candidates for the Republicans. Despite its current problems, the USA is a great country, why not make it a greater place in the present and in the future (for our children and grandchildren).

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Old 12-31-2007, 01:58 AM
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What is wrong with having a Mormon in the White House? If Romney can lead the country well and conducts himself well, there should not be too many problems. If he can bring hope and optimism to the country and get the country back into the black regarding the budget and in the right direction economically and other aspects, it would be great. I am not a Mormon. But, common', how about some religious toleration here. Mormons can be just as good of leaders as Baptists, Catholics, Methodists, and Lutherans. I think that Romney is one who can bring a spark of optimism back to the good old USA and is one of the better candidates for the Republicans. Despite its current problems, the USA is a great country, why not make it a greater place in the present and in the future (for our children and grandchildren).
Did you take the time to read all of my posts on the subject? Did you realize that I am a Mormon and was answering a question that was posed to me? I don't think that it matters what religion a person is a part of in regards to running the nation. Also if a person if a Mormon then so much better. The reason is that within the Mormon church we believe in obeying honoring and sustaining the law. The Mormon Leadership in Utah will not be telling Mit Romney what to do as President. The Mormon Church is neutral on politics. You will never here any speaches, talks, or commentary in any Mormon congregation on who they should vote for. We do here each election year the Churches position on elections and that we should educate ourselves on all the issues and each of the people that are running for office. The official position of the Mormon Church is to not endorse any political candidate.

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Old 12-31-2007, 08:07 AM
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I don't have much for Mitt Romney or anything, but it's a little shocking that people seem to be more worried about a Morman than the possibility of a guy with the middle name "Hussein" running for president.

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Old 12-31-2007, 10:19 AM
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Why have there been no Pro-Huckabee postings? That seems weird....

And why is this thread turning into a Romney mormanism issue?

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Old 12-31-2007, 12:04 PM
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Why have there been no Pro-Huckabee postings? That seems weird....

And why is this thread turning into a Romney mormanism issue?


1 a. Maybe you've been misinformed about how popular Huckabee is or isn't in Iowa.

1 b. This probably isn't the greatest cross-section of folks from Iowa, so it's not unlikely that a thread on this forum will not mirror poll results 100%

2. I don't know. It's more interesting than a lot of topics, I guess.

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Old 01-01-2008, 01:12 AM
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Did you take the time to read all of my posts on the subject? Did you realize that I am a Mormon and was answering a question that was posed to me? I don't think that it matters what religion a person is a part of in regards to running the nation. Also if a person if a Mormon then so much better. The reason is that within the Mormon church we believe in obeying honoring and sustaining the law. The Mormon Leadership in Utah will not be telling Mit Romney what to do as President. The Mormon Church is neutral on politics. You will never here any speaches, talks, or commentary in any Mormon congregation on who they should vote for. We do here each election year the Churches position on elections and that we should educate ourselves on all the issues and each of the people that are running for office. The official position of the Mormon Church is to not endorse any political candidate.
Very good information, SOON2BNSURPRISE. Thank you very much for your take and I should perhaps read more of your posts to gain a better understanding.

I did not mean to offend, but I feel that there is are many people in the American public who need to better understand other religions and demoninations such as Lutheranism, Catholicism, and Mormonism. Each has their good points and have different and same persectives on issues and religion. Law abiding nature of Mormons is admirable. I am a Lutheran and have been taught to be open-minded and respectful of other faiths and beliefs but have principles and beliefs to abide by. From what your post mentioned, the Mormon Church encourages people to make up their own minds and look at the issues. This is a good approach. I meant to say that Mit Romney should not be written off because he is Mormon: I think that he has his strengths and would be a person to bring optimism and hope back to the US.

If I voted Republican, I vote for Romney or McCain, maybe Huckabee. I do not care for the rest of the Republican candidates and will definitely vote Democrat if none of the prior three are nominated due to the others not generating much interest with me. The the top Demcrats include Bill Richardson (expereienced), John Edwards (for the middle class and supports rural American issues), or Barak Obama (a fresh face with new ideas).

Yes, I am a Democrat who leans Democrat and is fiscal conservative and social moderate, who votes Repulican sometimes (generally Dem. 60% and Rep. 40% of the time). Straight-ticket voting is for the birds and is not for me. I consider myself more or less a centrist and feel that solutions lie somewhere in the middle in relations to the political spectrum of left and right-wing thought.

It will be interesting to see what happens in Iowa and elsewhere. I would like to see a competitive race for both parties and stay that way for awhile. Then, the race would encourage people to tune in and learn more about the candidates and feel that they can make a difference. I hope whoever wins the president, Democrat or Republican, can bring hope, pride, and optimism back into the hearts, minds, and actions of Americans and its allies along with getting the nation back on the right path for the future.

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Old 01-01-2008, 05:34 PM
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Why have there been no Pro-Huckabee postings? That seems weird....

And why is this thread turning into a Romney mormanism issue?
Maybe because his strongest issues are Americas least important issues.

Who in the right mind would give a flying F*K about abortion and gay marriage at this point? Are we really going to sit around and debate issues which are completely arbitrary to the health of this country?

Politicians are the last people I want to hear from about what's morally right or wrong.

I want to hear about economy, education, immigration, crime & foreign policy before abortion and gay marriage.

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Old 01-01-2008, 05:48 PM
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Maybe because his strongest issues are Americas least important issues.

Who in the right mind would give a flying F*K about abortion and gay marriage at this point? Are we really going to sit around and debate issues which are completely arbitrary to the health of this country?

Politicians are the last people I want to hear from about what's morally right or wrong.

I want to hear about economy, education, immigration, crime & foreign policy before abortion and gay marriage.
Exactly. I'm a registered Republican, but it does seem like they grind their wheels a lot about issues that seem unimportant. I can see how abortion can be a hot topic, but it's an issue I don't really care much either way about. The funny thing about focusing on things like gay marriage and abortion is that it doesn't even seem like they've got a clear-cut viewpoint to offer on those subjects although they spend a lot of time on it.

I guess Democrats do it too. I can see how abortion can be a hot issue both ways for people, but it seems like they forget about everything else. Gay marriage, I can see how people can be adamately for it, but honestly some of the people who are adamately against it creep me out a little. Either way, it doesn't seem like anything of grave national importance.

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Old 01-01-2008, 06:14 PM
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Exactly. I'm a registered Republican, but it does seem like they grind their wheels a lot about issues that seem unimportant. I can see how abortion can be a hot topic, but it's an issue I don't really care much either way about. The funny thing about focusing on things like gay marriage and abortion is that it doesn't even seem like they've got a clear-cut viewpoint to offer on those subjects although they spend a lot of time on it.

I guess Democrats do it too. I can see how abortion can be a hot issue both ways for people, but it seems like they forget about everything else. Gay marriage, I can see how people can be adamately for it, but honestly some of the people who are adamately against it creep me out a little. Either way, it doesn't seem like anything of grave national importance.
I am also a registered Republican and I'm completely uncertain who to vote for this year (rep or dem).

Everyone seems to present themselves in a "junior high popularity competition" sort of way.

I think one should get the balls...or vagina...to step up and say abortion and gay marriage would be dealt at a much later date. Maybe in his/her second term or the next president if in fact the real issues had been dealt with.

It's like fixing the radio in your car before the transmission...as stupid as that sounds.

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Old 01-02-2008, 02:58 AM
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I am also a registered Republican and I'm completely uncertain who to vote for this year (rep or dem).

Everyone seems to present themselves in a "junior high popularity competition" sort of way.

I think one should get the balls...or vagina...to step up and say abortion and gay marriage would be dealt at a much later date. Maybe in his/her second term or the next president if in fact the real issues had been dealt with.

It's like fixing the radio in your car before the transmission...as stupid as that sounds.
That's a pretty good analogy, really.

I like Ron Paul and that's about it. Actually tomorrow I'm going to a "Veterans for Ron Paul" event downtown.

One thing I like about Obama is his position on abortion is that it shouldn't be the issue it is so I think he's on the same page as what we're saying. I think he's the only candidate that says that.

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