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Old 08-28-2007, 01:14 PM
 
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It seems that everyone that has something good to say doesn't live there. I was a resident for 14 years and saw the good days and ended up in the bad. As was said the white collar industry has all but died. The reason the housing is affordable is that no one makes any decent money. If they do...they do not live within the city limits. Yes, the town stinks, the roads are always in VERY bad shape and and the city as a whole is a dirty, many shades of gray type town. There are things to do however they are not necessarily good quality events. Saturday in the park is quite expensive for the kids events and other then that, its a drunk fest. Rivercade is also a drunk fest.
I lived on the North side where the kids could play outside unattended, and even ride their bikes a few blocks away, but thats changing too fast. Cars are speeding by now on side streets, I do not trust the neighbors 'so to speak', hell they do not even speak english. The home values are stuck and dropping more then the national average. You will certainly find yourself needing to get your car aligned at least once a year and watch out for the too frequent car muffler that fell off the 1982 rusted out junker in front of you. The radio stations are behind the curve in the songs they play (there are only three non-country stations). The news casting is weak and amateur. The taxes are way high.
My home in SC which I bought for 80,000 9 years ago sold for 92,000 after dumping 20,000 into upgrades. My taxes on that house were $2400 a year for the double lot. My new house at $230,000 and taxes are $3000 on an acre.
My pay jumped up 60% over the pay scale in SC for the same job line. Oh and now that the kids are in school again, we are finding that they too are behind the curve on what they should have been learning. The schools in SC are very crowded and there are lots of problems. My friends that were teachers were admittingly spending more time on discipline then teaching.
Places to eat......this is the main event in Sioux city along with the bars, however the places to eat are all chain places and if you eat out twice a week, you'll be through them all in about 2 months.
The SC city counsel is 50% recovering alcoholics and 50% death bed elderly staffed and they cannot decide whether or not to drive the city into progression or retro. They built a great new art center where budding and well known artist could display their work and bring culture to the city. Its open about what....' 4 hours a day' and if you work you'll miss the opened times. So who did they make it for? Hey if you like Hockey, indoor football and baseball and don't mind dropping $60+ bucks to see amateur sports for a party of two....SC has it all. Oh and did I mention the gambling? There is a boat right there and you can waste all the money you earned at your $7 an hour job. There are stacks of cars there all the time.....hmmmm but instead of SC getting the boat to move, they claim that they are getting big money out of the agreement and that coupled with high property and auto tax, you get the ability to live in a poorly managed and maintained city where crime is on the rise, housing is declining faster then the national average. The schools are over crowed and mainly non-english speaking. Your pay scale has a special reduced section on Salary.com and you live in one of the windiest and most wind blown dirt areas in the country. Oh also check out the Multiple Sclerosis stats about cases of it in that area....., also check out teenage pregnancy rate, median income, average age of housing and take a look at how many red-tagged (tagged for demolition) homes there are in every neighborhood, check out the auto insurance rates for the town. Drive around and look at how the city has designed the town, how many buildings are half torn down, how many buildings are maintained or landscaped. There are sweet spots of design wins, very nice areas, but look at what you drove through to get there. The town is mismanaged, poverty stricken, generally dirty and its not gotten better over time. Its only gotten worse. It got worse while the rest of the nation flourished and now that everyone is having a hard time, SC is in really bad shape.
If you move there, don't say no one warned you.
Wow! I think I don't want to move there now. I have never seen Sioux City, but I guess I don't know everything. Do you have any suggestions of places to move to in Iowa(or outside of Iowa, but preferably outside of the Southeast) for a person after one's graduation(which I will be graduating sometime in the next year or so)?
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:15 PM
 
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I understand about a place seeming nice to those who don't live there. I have had that experience.
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:01 PM
 
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Wow! I think I don't want to move there now. I have never seen Sioux City, but I guess I don't know everything. Do you have any suggestions of places to move to in Iowa(or outside of Iowa, but preferably outside of the Southeast) for a person after one's graduation(which I will be graduating sometime in the next year or so)?
Cedar Rapids, IA is a nice town. Decent size (for iowa), low crime, good growth, fair amount of job opportunities, low cost of living. Pretty much the opposite of Sioux City, plus Iowa City and Waterloo/Cedar Falls are just down the road in case you need some variety in your life.

The east half of Iowa is much more populated than the west half. Cedar Rapids has a metro population of about 300,000 (rounding) and Waterloo/Cedar Falls is around 150,000, and Iowa City is around 150,000 too. Waterloo is about 45 minutes north, and Iowa City is about 20 minutes south...and getting closer everyday with suburbs in between.

Because they are all separate towns, they feel small, but you have access to a regional population of 600,000+ people in the fairly immediate area. Its a nice combination.

I manage a store in Sioux City, but have lived in Cedar Rapids for about 15 years. Because I manage the store in Sioux City, I travel there about twice a month. I moved there for about 10 months about a year ago to get the store going, and I can attest to most of what everyone on here has said. Although its not a gruesome sight, it is clear that there is no growth in Sioux City. Any growth it does make is in Hispanic population, much of it non-english speaking, or population growth from teen pregnancy rates far higher than any report suggests. Even people in Sioux City will tell you, "it must be something in the water" in reference to all the young new mothers in Sioux City.

Really this sums it up. The people who have money either moved away, or moved to Dakota Dunes, and most of their money does not go into the immediate economy. The rest of the town lives off $7 - $10 an hour jobs, and when they get off work every day, they either go to the boat and gamble, go to the bar and drink, or go home and have sex. If they choose one of the first two options, the night usually ends up by doing the third option, only with someone they met at one of the first two options.
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:36 PM
 
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Cedar Rapids, IA is a nice town. Decent size (for iowa), low crime, good growth, fair amount of job opportunities, low cost of living. Pretty much the opposite of Sioux City, plus Iowa City and Waterloo/Cedar Falls are just down the road in case you need some variety in your life.

The east half of Iowa is much more populated than the west half. Cedar Rapids has a metro population of about 300,000 (rounding) and Waterloo/Cedar Falls is around 150,000, and Iowa City is around 150,000 too. Waterloo is about 45 minutes north, and Iowa City is about 20 minutes south...and getting closer everyday with suburbs in between.

Because they are all separate towns, they feel small, but you have access to a regional population of 600,000+ people in the fairly immediate area. Its a nice combination.

I manage a store in Sioux City, but have lived in Cedar Rapids for about 15 years. Because I manage the store in Sioux City, I travel there about twice a month. I moved there for about 10 months about a year ago to get the store going, and I can attest to most of what everyone on here has said. Although its not a gruesome sight, it is clear that there is no growth in Sioux City. Any growth it does make is in Hispanic population, much of it non-english speaking, or population growth from teen pregnancy rates far higher than any report suggests. Even people in Sioux City will tell you, "it must be something in the water" in reference to all the young new mothers in Sioux City.

Really this sums it up. The people who have money either moved away, or moved to Dakota Dunes, and most of their money does not go into the immediate economy. The rest of the town lives off $7 - $10 an hour jobs, and when they get off work every day, they either go to the boat and gamble, go to the bar and drink, or go home and have sex. If they choose one of the first two options, the night usually ends up by doing the third option, only with someone they met at one of the first two options.
Now I know I don't want to go to Sioux City. What do you know about Waterloo(other than it has some Rust Belt to it) and Davenport?
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:01 PM
 
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Now I know I don't want to go to Sioux City. What do you know about Waterloo(other than it has some Rust Belt to it) and Davenport?
Waterloo/Cedar Falls is a nice area, but in my opinion Cedar Rapids is nicer. Waterloo has a fair amount of crime (as compared to the rest of Iowa)

I don't know where you are coming from...Waterloo's crime is not terrible, but considering that Cedar Rapids and Iowa City have very very low crime, Waterloo seems high for the area. The same case for crime could be made about Des Moines due to its size. Low for the national average, low for a big city, but high compared to the rest of Iowa.

Davenport is kind of an interesting town. It is lumped into the Quad Cities, which are Davenport, Iowa...Rock Island, Illinois...Moline, Illinois...and Bettendorf, Iowa. The Quad Cities have a metro population of about 400,000. It is definately bigger than Cedar Rapids, but is a diverse mixture of the Illinois side and the Iowa side. There are two big malls, a civic center which hosts some big shows, and it generally is regarded as a much more "to do" town than Cedar Rapids, but with it comes slightly higher crime, and more income division amongst the different sides of town.

Some people regard it as a dirty town, I tend to think Waterloo is dirtier, but I have been to Waterloo many more times than I have been to the Quad Cities. It is a short hop to Chicago from the Quad Cities though. You can make it to some of the outer suburbs of chicago in just over an hour, downtown Chicago in two hours. Moline is also home to the Quad Cities International Airport, which can save some money on airfare if you are a frequent flier as the Cedar Rapids airport is regional, and all flights require a hop to Chicago first.

Hope this helps.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:27 PM
 
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The cedar rapids airport has more flights and non-stops then Quad City International. Although you can get good rates at the QCI at times. Both airports are very similar. CR does a bit more traffic though.
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Old 12-19-2007, 02:48 PM
 
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What are the passenger numbers for QCI and Cedar Rapids?
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:43 PM
 
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also, one of the downfalls to SC is the fact it's a river town... there's hardly a straight road, and It can be somewhat confusing for a newcomer.

But since they put the bipass in, there has been alot of expansion of shopping near the mall... VERY good thing for SC.

Plus if you'd want to get out of town for shopping, head up I29 to Sioux Falls... little different atmosphere (and alot more expensive housing)

just my $.02
UGH dont' get me started! A year later and I STILL get lost in Sioux City! lol
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:41 PM
 
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Thumbs up Sioux City, more to do than you would think!

As a native Sioux Cityan I can tell you that like most any city there are good and bad areas and problems and good things.
I think Sioux City is great for raising a young family affordeably. Schools are some of the best in the country. Morningside has good schools as well as the far northside of the city, near North High School. Dakota Dunes, SD has good schools but spendy to live there. Beautifully laid out subdivision though with all the old trees from 50 years plus surrounding the homes. Smart! Although my kids friends loved loved West High School. Awesome teachers, great dance team, and every other sport you would expect! Housing is very cheap, you can get a lot of house for the dollar!
A ton of retail shops have come into the east side mall area. We also have had a huge recent influx of new restaurants and have some of the best authentic chinese, tai,mexican, and vietnamese restaurants.
Housing south of the mall in Morningside is more expensive but very nice. Grandview Park area in the center of town has some beautiful old grande homes surrounding it.
In the summer we have an awesome blues festival in the bandshell of Grandview Park. We've had the likes of Santana, James Brown, etc. It's awesome and free! Art Splash down at the Riverfront is always a fun time. There is a nice bike trail that the city has extended from 27th and Hamilton all the way down to the River and out to Riverside Park. There is a Riverboat Casino down at the river too although I've never been there its fun entertainment for those that like it.
For colleges we have Morningside College and Briar Cliff College and Western Iowa Tech nical . Some of the best police training in the nation is done at Western Iowa Tech College
Downtown has lost most of its retail stores to the morningside mall area. However, there are still many nice restaurants and clubs on Historic 4th Street, along with a nice modern comforteable theatre. The Orpheum Theatre has been redone beautifully to its original splendor of the 1930's with many entertainers booking there. The Tyson Event Center is a new huge center for everything from concerts to hockey, with the Sioux City Musketeers Hockey Team, great fun! We get rodeos, monster truck, you name it there. Just got a new huge climbing wall at the Tyson Center. Always something going on. We also have the Sioux City EXplorers Baseball Field, the Explorers are a Minor League Baseball Team. We have fight nights down at the Lewis Bowl for anyone who likes UFC type fighting. There is Park Jefferson Speedway just across the border into South Dakota for amateur racing. WinnaVegas is south of Sioux City on I-29 for more indepth gambling sorry always been too tight to lose my money needlessly but some might enjoy it, whatever. All in all there is quite a lot to do. Many people boat on the Mississippi River but I'll warn you it is dangerous so wouldn't recomment water skiing on it just go upriver about ten miles and hang out on the sand bars or go to Ponca, Nebraska and dock up there, very nice park with horses, etc.
Sioux City does have a smell from the John Morrell plant along I-29 which runs along the southern border of the town, but in all my 40 plus years I've never smellled any thing in any of the neighborhoods around town only right by the plant or along I29 as you come into town, unfortunately earning us the nickname Sewer City.
Sioux City has earned the title of one of the ten cities in Iowa that will be getting funding to further develop its character and history. Historic 4th will be getting a new makeover including a walking bridge down the the Pavillion along the river. In the summers there is band night outside of the theatre on Historic 4th. We get some very talented groups and is fun to listen before or after a meal. We have awesome Harley nights every summer on 4th street too. I will shut up now, oh there is Stone Park for hiking trails and picnics along with Bacon Creek which has paddle boats and a great trail around it for hiking or biking or fishing. very pretty there with rolling hills surrounding it.
The winters are cold and summers are hot like a typical midwest state. I would overall say you would not be disappointed with Sioux City. Best of luck! Armyoffive
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:44 PM
 
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I lived in the tri-state area for 30 years and just recently (June o7) moved to Tacoma WA because of my husband's job. It really depends what you are looking for when you choose where to live in this area. I lived in South Sioux for 24 years and in the Morningside area of Sioux City for 6. My husband lived in Jefferson SD before we were married and we have a lot of friends in all different towns around there.

If you want your kids to go to a good school in the area, I have had experiences with SSC district, Sioux City East, Washington Elementary in Morningside and Dakota Valley in Dakota Dunes SD. If you are well off financially and are new to the area, your kids will do well at Dakota Valley. However, if you can't afford high priced clothes and have a fancy car and house, your kids will be teased, they don't make it easy on newcomers. South Sioux was a good school when I was attending it, but I graduated in 1995. SC East has a good support staff and decent teachers, but the kids can be difficult. Of the four high schools in SC, North would be one to look into, I have heard good things about it and got along with the students from there when I was a kid. The good thing about the elementary schools are that they are able to keep the classes relatively small for better teacher-student ratios. Make sure to check into the PTA and see how much they are involved, it makes a difference, trust me.

In regards to the city itself, there are good things and bad just like any other city. Downtown is not great, but it's very slowly getting better than it was. Nightlife for adults is basically bar hopping with an occasional good concert, movie or sporting event. The yearly activities like Artsplash, Saturday in the Park and Rivercade are highlights of the year and can be relatively entertaining. The smaller towns around don't have much additional variety, but the Tulip Festival in Orange City was okay. There really isn't much for kids to do, which contributes to the crime rate. (Never really was to be honest.) Crime rates seem high because of how small the city is due to meth. They are trying to combat it, but funding has not kept up with the demand.

Like I said, I lived there for 30 years and will always have a special place in my heart for it. I have nice memories of being able to ride my bike all over SSC when I was kid, but times were different then. If I had to move back, I would go back to the Morningside area in SC or the higher street numbers of SSC (23rd St up). There are a few new developments in that area also that look nice. South Dakota towns are nice because there are no state income taxes but only if you work in SD. If you live in SD and work in IA, they will tax you. Any place is what you make of it, check out the schools and determine where you want to live by that.
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