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Old 04-11-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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I am sure Iowa is a very nice place, but I think most people who thinks that "life in Iowa is really that great" are people who were raised there and have family and long time friends and lots of long time familiar acquaintences there. Deep Roots, I suppose you could call it.

With the possible exception of Des Moines or Council Bluffs, and maybe the Quad Cities, for an outside to move to Iowa with no family or friends there, I don't think too many of them would think life in Iowa is so great. The smaller the town, I think the worse it would be for an outsider. Somebody coming from outside the Midwest I think would have a harder time adjusting than a fellow Midwesterner.

I was raised mostly in Indiana and I moved away to Houston soon after high school, and there is no way I would have considered moving to a small town that is so far away from Indiana and I didn't know anybody there. I never would have considered a town that was less than a hundred thousand people and longer than a 4 hour drive to Muncie.
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Slight correction. Trump hasn't lost in South Dakota, YET. Our primary is June 7, the last day of the primary season along with California. For the first time in my memory, how we vote here will probably be relevant to who will become the nominee. I think Cruz will "cruise" to a win here on the GOP side making your prediction accurate.


We're a very conservative state, but on the Democrat side I think Sanders will win. Devout Socialist or not. Other than the reservation vote and some straight ticket women Democratic voters, Clinton followers are few and far between. I honestly can say that I don't personally know a single male that's voting for her.
Yes, I should have noted SD as I did with Nebraska. I was projecting there a bit, but all seems pretty clear that Trump will not win in either of these places.

What do you think of my observation? I really do think people in the upper Midwest do not respect brash, boastful individuals....at least not at the same level people might in other parts of the country. Likewise, when outsiders move here and tend to brag about accomplishments, how great it was where they used to live, etc.etc.etc...they get the cold shoulder eventually and suddenly in their eyes, "Iowan aren't very friendly".
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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Yes, I should have noted SD as I did with Nebraska. I was projecting there a bit, but all seems pretty clear that Trump will not win in either of these places.

What do you think of my observation? I really do think people in the upper Midwest do not respect brash, boastful individuals....at least not at the same level people might in other parts of the country. Likewise, when outsiders move here and tend to brag about accomplishments, how great it was where they used to live, etc.etc.etc...they get the cold shoulder eventually and suddenly in their eyes, "Iowan aren't very friendly".

I think your observation is spot on. In your face attitudes do for the most part disgust people around here. In many of the rural communities if pushed too far it could result in missing teeth and broken noses.
You can be opinionated, as is common around here, without being brash, boastful and demeaning.


The big city "attitude" that seems to be so embraced by today's media and "popular" celebrities is still looked upon around here as disgusting. The only place in the state that you'll find a congregating of this attitude to some degree is in Sioux Falls.
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Old 04-12-2016, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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I am sure Iowa is a very nice place, but I think most people who thinks that "life in Iowa is really that great" are people who were raised there and have family and long time friends and lots of long time familiar acquaintences there. Deep Roots, I suppose you could call it.
That could be true for a lot of people. Would I want to move back, if I didn't have family there? Maybe not. I lived in Indiana as well. It wasn't drastically different...more conservative, more industrial (compared to how I grew up), but otherwise similar. For me, I think the appeal is for the Midwest in general, not Iowa specifically. And it just depends on what a person values most in his/her life. Nightlife? Lots of high end restaurants? The best jobs? Mountains? Coast? If those a priority, then the Midwest is going to fall short on most counts. And some people just don't like smaller cities.

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With the possible exception of Des Moines or Council Bluffs, and maybe the Quad Cities, for an outside to move to Iowa with no family or friends there, I don't think too many of them would think life in Iowa is so great. The smaller the town, I think the worse it would be for an outsider.
I think that's going to be the case in remote areas of most states, if new people don't move to those towns/cities very often (unlike with a college town - I lived in Muncie for a few years and had no trouble fitting in there).

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Old 04-12-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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It always amazes me when someone such as you, wcgtrr88, move to a new area, and do nothing but complain. If where you came from is so much better, why did you leave in the first place? I work with a guy who moved here from California, he at first thought he found the "garden of eden" for him. He then wondered why he couldn't find/keep any friends, turns out he likes do nothing but complain about his "garden of eden" now. He likes to talk about how much better things in Cali. were. He does love the fact he can actually drive somewhere in just a few minutes, where it might have taken him an hour, or more in Cali.

I really don't care how much you dislike Iowa, it's not my problem. Mocking me for being a "typical" Iowan just shows me that you have an attitude that it's got to be your way, or the high-way so to speak. It's no wonder you're making so many new friends here. lol

Things are definitely not perfect here, but obviously they weren't where you came from either, or you wouldn't be here eh? I can imagine your cost of living is considerably less in Iowa compared to New York. With the money you're saving, it shouldn't be too hard to afford some new shocks, and a front end alignment once in a while huh?

Don't worry, when you do leave, you won't be leaving me in misery, I kind of like my little place in world, to each his own I guess.

Haha! Colorful reply, Wingit! I like it! I'll answer a few questions you had: my company relocated me here to the Quad Cities. I was previously in located in the southern states. As far as the cost of living goes, Quad Cities is much more expensive. Housing in double compared to where I came from. Probably because homes down south are built using mostly migrant workers and overall quality is extremely high. Here, you get a cookie cutter house built out of particle board by a bunch of union carpenters who get paid too much. Groceries and the like are anywhere from 15%-30% higher than down south. So, this is not an inexpensive place to live as compared to similar sized towns in the US. Compared to Cali or NY, sure it's a lot cheaper. But, the Quad Cities is not Cali or NY. The primary reason this place is so expensive is because 40% of the population is either a doctor, lawyer, dentist, physician assistant, or chiropractor. Lot's of health care in the area as the other 60% of the population is largely aging/retired manufacturing workers with a myriad of occupational related health illnesses. And here's another new one I've never seen before......a nurse can be your primary care doctor here! Yes....I was looking for a new doc and told by Genesis that no MD's or DO's are accepting new patients and that I would have to be assigned to a physician assistant (nurse with a couple of extra online courses). I told them, no thanks, I'd rather take my chances with the oriental medicine man down on Locust St. And you're absolutely correct about the friends thing too. I haven't made a single friend yet. Not that I haven't tried though. I say hello to everyone I pass by.....in return, I just get silence as they pass by just staring at their shoes. What a friendly town!! See....I'm figuring it out! Fitting right in I suppose!
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Old 04-12-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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I was with you about the Quad Cities being awful, until you started detailing some of your reasons.

Facts are facts. The Quad Cities has some of the cheapest housing in the nation. Granted, that's because nobody wants to live there, which drives down real estate prices...but it's a fact nevertheless. If you're paying big bucks for living expenses in the Quad Cities, it's because you're not very good at shopping around. There's PLENTY of cheap housing around Davenport and Rock Island.

Also, the people of the Quad Cities are many different things, but rudeness is not a common trait. They might be a bunch of simpletons hopelessly stuck in the 1950s with no vision for the future, but they're not rude. In fact, they're probably some of the friendliest people you'll meet anywhere. That's mostly what keeps me from bolting to a different area.

The job market and local economy suck. The surroundings are quite depressing. The local mentality is backwards-thinking and small-minded. There's very little to do most months of the year. But, it's a cheap place to live and the people are friendly, so long as you show them common courtesy in return. I don't disagree with your premise that the QC area is awful. Unfortunately, you've cited the wrong reasons.

If you think houses are too expensive in the Quad Cities and the people are too rude, good luck finding happiness in those categories anywhere else.

Coming from the south, my observation of the people here is that they are generally rude, cold, and extreeeeeemmmmely liberal. Quite the opposite of folks down south. Sorry....housing prices are absolutely ridiculous for the quality of home you get (cookie cutter particle board home). Compared to areas in the southeast, home prices here are 100% higher. Groceries and household items are 15-30% higher here. You all need to stop drinking the Quad Cities kool-aid and really do your research:

Cost of Living Comparison: compare Macon, Georgia to Bettendorf, Iowa
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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I am sure Iowa is a very nice place, but I think most people who thinks that "life in Iowa is really that great" are people who were raised there and have family and long time friends and lots of long time familiar acquaintences there. Deep Roots, I suppose you could call it.
As someone who several years ago moved to small town Iowa from another state for a job, I can tell you that you're very wrong. I enjoyed living there. Many small towns in Iowa are pretty, thriving, and full of interesting things to do. In fact, I love most of Iowa. The countryside is beautiful and Iowa's history and economy were and are very important to America as a whole. The only parts of Iowa I personally vaguely dislike are Des Moines and it's suburbs, and a few really oddball places like Pella (which is a very nice place to visit but spookily Stepfordish - you wouldn't want to live there unless you're Dutch Reformed). It's true that many of the river towns look pretty shabby, and it's also true that meth is a problem in much of rural Iowa. I don't know that I'd like living in the Quad cities, but someone could easily live in one of the pretty small towns within driving distance to a Quad city job and have a very nice life.

Also, there are many very different types of places to live in Iowa. Burlington, Decorah, Cantril, Iowa City, Des Moines, Spirit Lake and Missouri Valley all have very, very different economies, histories, and current "vibes".

And as far as people go . . . people are people wherever you are, everywhere in the world. There are going to be types you don't want to hang out with, and types you do want to hang out with, wherever and whoever you are. There is no such thing as a single "type" of person, even in a small town.

There is, however, a larger sociocultural "feel" to any place. If the "feel" of a place makes you unhappy, this is America - just move on and find someplace else where you feel more comfortable. Lots of people feel comfortable in their home in one of the very varied towns and cities of Iowa.
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:48 PM
 
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Coming from the south, my observation of the people here is that they are generally rude, cold, and extreeeeeemmmmely liberal.
Well, I think we've located the source of your psychosis. You simply don't like people who are liberal. That means there are scores of places (many of those much more liberal than the Quad Cities) that you would find equally objectionable.

So, your dislike of the Quad Cities isn't based on any real or quantifiable data, just your intolerance towards people who don't share your exact political views.
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Old 04-13-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: MetroWest Boston
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What is it with these Iowa forums? Why do most of the posts seem to turn into some kind of personal attack towards others?
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Old 04-13-2016, 08:48 AM
 
Location: eastern Iowa
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What is it with these Iowa forums? Why do most of the posts seem to turn into some kind of personal attack towards others?

Good question. It gets old and not worth responding or initiating posts anymore.

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