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Old 06-18-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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You can post all you want on CD. Americans do not care about islamic websites. You spend a lot of effort trying to show islam in a positive light. You may have better luck in your efforts if you actually answer the hard questions posed by westeners, such as the one above my post. All I ever see is the same regurgitated jibberish and beat around the bush antics.

We Muslims have deepen light Islam in our hearts, my religion in a positive light , But my question here is why America or the West do not criticize their terror

ditchlights, Do you know we are proud of islam Whatever Happened

Where any acts of violence that occurs among some Muslims Do not reflect the pure image of Islam but reflect to only Themselves


Just admit the truth. Islam is hell bent on world domination, and you people are incapable of accepting alternate theories on religion. The main difference between you and Sukrill, and others of your type, is that you are not open to opposing thoughts.

but islam Heaven bent on the world and we people are capable of accepting alternate theories on religion and we are open to opposing Misconceptions


may allah guide you


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Old 06-18-2010, 03:20 PM
 
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If it makes you feel better, I don't believe that any religion is the word of God. So, it's not that I'm not going to follow Islam - it's that I'm not going to follow any religion. I don't even know if there is a god or not... Sorry!


Dewdrop93, you are free But all of this without proofs only imagine

What if you died and found that all your belief was wrong Where ,there is

a punishment from God is Unavoidable

This is very shocked right?
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Old 06-18-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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This comment kind of hints that you aren't interested in debate, even though you say you are. My question to you is this: why must you keep starting these proselytizing threads? Haven't you realized that you're only going to get the same responses in this one as you did in all the others?


Fred314X,

For it is a right... For it is a right, whether I found satisfaction or dissatisfaction


WAY the summits is often unpaved



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Old 06-18-2010, 03:48 PM
 
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Dewdrop93, you are free But all of this without proofs only imagine

What if you died and found that all your belief was wrong Where ,there is

a punishment from God is Unavoidable

This is very shocked right?
You sound exactly like the fanatical Christians! Maybe you are both wrong! Maybe I'm right! Maybe we are all wrong!
Are you shocked?
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:50 PM
 
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1. Physical incapacity. The prophet was physically incapable to write the Qur’an. History has him as an unlettered man who could not write anything more than his own name. How could he write a book?
He got someone else to...




2. Sincerity. The prophet was morally constrained to tell the truth about the origin of the Qur’an. He was noted to be so honest and trustworthy that even his enemies called him al-Amin (the trustworthy). Moreover, he suffered persecution, refused offers to compromise, and maintained his message for a period of twenty-three years. Historians of religion have to conclude that he was sincere.
So did joseph smith.

3. Psychology. The Qur’an speaks to the prophet, commands him, and even criticizes him. Such contents do not point to the prophet as the self-conscious author. On the other hand, the author declares himself to be the creator of the heavens and the earth.
So someone pretending to be god, is proof of god..

4. History. The prophet was incapable of writing the Qur’an. The Qur’an details items of history which were not known to the prophet or his contemporaries. And independent studies confirm that the Qur’an was true in what it said.
So muhammad was a real guy, so he couldn't have lied..

5. Prophecy. The Qur’an speaks prophetically, detailing what the future holds. Then the future unfolds exactly as foretold. Who could author such a book?
The quran predicted the iphone?... no..
The accuracy of the Qur'an is not remarkable. All of its accurate points can be explained by simple observation of nature or by selective interpretation of scriptures.

6. Science. The Qur’an draws attention to a wide range of physical phenomena in order to teach moral lessons. The statements were not meant to teach science. Yet modern scientists are amazed at the accuracy of these statements. For example, the Qur’an said things about the growth and development of the human embryo which could not be studied without the use of a microscope. Dr. Keith Moore was professor and chairman of the Department of Anatomy at the University of Toronto. After reviewing the Qur’anic statements he said: ""I am amazed at the accuracy of these statements which were already made in the 7th century AD."" Such knowledge in the Qur’an points to God as its source.
If occasional scientific accuracy shows overall accuracy of the Qur'an, the same conclusion must be granted to the Bible, Zend Avesta, and several other works from other religions, all of which can make the same claims to scientific accuracy.

7. Consistency. The Qur’an challenges skeptics to find errors in it, which, if found, would disprove its divine claim. But no one has yet been able to point to a real error in it.
Islamic Science: Does Islamic literature contain scientific miracles?
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Muslims cite alleged scientific miracles in the Qur'an and Hadiths to try and prove a divine origin of their faith. In this short study of Islamic science, these claims have been debunked. Clearly there was no supernatural force giving Muhammad scientific information. While the Muslims argued that advanced scientific knowledge in the Qur'an is a sign of divine origin, the rational thinker points out that the numerous and obvious scientific errors point to a wholly human origin."

8. Inimitability. A unique feature of the Qur’an is that no one is able to produce a book that would match its beauty, eloquence and wisdom. The Qur’an itself challenges humankind to produce even a chapter like it. But no one has been able to do it.
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From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here, that's home, that's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

YouTube - Carl Sagan - Pale Blue Dot

This short speech is far more
beauty, eloquence and wisdom then the quran.


in this the link

Who does not understand the Koran say that undoubtedly


Rejection of the Truth easiest way

How Long Could be a Day?


http://www.islamicvoice.com/march.2001/religion.htm

*The alleged contradiction by the skeptic is: "Does Allah's day equal to 1,000 human years (Sura 22:47, 32:5) or 50,000 human years (Sura 70:4)?"

Alleged Contradiction - 1000 years or 50,000?


*Refuting Erros of Embryological Statements in Qur'an


Contradictions in Quran ?


YouTube - Contradictions in Quran
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:54 PM
 
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You sound exactly like the fanatical Christians! Maybe you are both wrong! Maybe I'm right! Maybe we are all wrong!
Are you shocked?



YES. but have you any proofs to that ?

maybe I am right maybe you wrong
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:58 PM
 
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just because it's written in a book, doesn't make it true.




ptsum,

but, just You did not read it yet ,so you know
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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ptsum,

but, just You did not read it yet ,so you know

I have read your sacred book and I have read the Christian sacred book and I have read other sacred books and they are all written by man and are merely the opinions and interpretations of man and therefore I do not consider them to be worthy of being truthful in any way.
That is why I say, just because it's written in a book, doesn't make it true.
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Old 06-19-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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YES. but have you any proofs to that ?

maybe I am right maybe you wrong
There aren't any "proofs." The only "proofs" any religions have are in their sacred books. There are so many different sacred books. My "proofs" about life come from science and my own life experience. Nobody knows who is wrong and who is right! We could all be wrong and yet, we all think that we are right. I don't think we'll ever know.
I respect your right to your beliefs.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:35 AM
 
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Quran itself provides the proof that it is the God's word, no man can ever write a book like Quran. Here are a few verses of Quran about Quran itself which tell that it is the word of God.


It is He who has sent among the unlettered a Messenger from themselves reciting to them. His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book and wisdom - although they were before in clear error. (Al-Jumu'ah 62:2)

And it was not [possible] for this Quran to be produced by other than Allah, but [it is] a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of the [former] Scripture, about which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. (Yoonus 10:37)

Then do they not reflect upon the Quran? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction. (An-Nisaa’ 4:82)

There has come to you enlightenment from your Lord. So whoever will see does so for [the benefit of] his soul, and whoever is blind [does harm] against it. And [say], "I am not a guardian over you." (al-An'aam 6:104)

Say: "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." (Al-Israa' 17:88)

And We have indeed made the Quran easy to understand and remember, then is there any that will remember (or receive admonition)? (Al-Qamar 54:17)

An Arabic Quran, without any crookedness (therein) in order that they may become God-fearing. (Az-Zumar 39:28)
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