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Old 06-27-2010, 01:02 AM
 
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"There is a place for violence in Islam"

Breitbart.tv » Muslim Leader Admits Islam Not a Religion of Peace
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:18 AM
 
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I always had that sneaking suspicion! I just never had anything to really back it up...
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:38 AM
 
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He is telling what islam is, not what for the most part, muslims believe. All the abrahamic religion are violent.
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Old 06-27-2010, 05:03 AM
 
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There is already a drawn out thread addressing just this in the P&OC's forum.
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Old 06-27-2010, 05:22 AM
 
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He is telling what islam is, not what for the most part, muslims believe.
That's mostly fair. Although "what Islam is" seems to be open to about as much debate as "what Christianity is."

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All the abrahamic religion are violent.
Pretty much every society has "a place for violence" or is in some sense violent. Burma is Buddhist, but it's not exactly made them a land of peace and sunshine. Estonia is mostly atheistic, but it hasn't stopped them from being among the most murderous places in Europe.

http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html

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Old 06-27-2010, 09:01 AM
 
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There is some delicious irony in this video starting around the 5:50 mark. Dude's talking about the Koran needing to arrive in the 21st century yet his holy book (the bible) has some rather Koranic like statements of its own and is even older.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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That's mostly fair. Although "what Islam is" seems to be open to about as much debate as "what Christianity is."



Pretty much every society has "a place for violence" or is in some sense violent. Burma is Buddhist, but it's not exactly made them a land of peace and sunshine. Estonia is mostly atheistic, but it hasn't stopped them from being among the most murderous places in Europe.

http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html
What is written in the scriptures, are not, contrary to what many religious people will claim, open to interpretation.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:38 PM
 
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What is written in the scriptures, are not, contrary to what many religious people will claim, open to interpretation.
As you have no authority to make such a statement it's essentially meaningless and I almost wonder why you would even say it.

Anyway it's false. It should be obvious that most any written work concerning humans can be open to interpretation. Even if it's a history book. People are not like numbers or the most literalistic of objects. The context, etc does matter. Interpretation does matter. You did take some course in literature or history right?
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:37 PM
 
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you guys are really dumb if you believe this guy. if he said that in islam men beat thier women behind closed doors youd believe him too... give me a break, this just goes to show how society follows the media. islam is a religion of peace. just because he says its not doesnt mean its not. you guys will believe anything the media spits at you...
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:39 PM
 
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Pretty much every society has "a place for violence" or is in some sense violent. Burma is Buddhist, but it's not exactly made them a land of peace and sunshine. Estonia is mostly atheistic, but it hasn't stopped them from being among the most murderous places in Europe.

http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html
agreed, religion is not what causes violence, getting rid of it wont fix anything. people will be people and fact is theres just people that are evil and people that are good...
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