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Old 07-31-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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A light evening's read, for those interested.

Intolerance in the Quran

Some interesting direct quotes from the great and holy Qu'Ran. Sure made my evening!

Be enlightened, all.
It's perfect propaganda, actually. Only truly brave souls, having known nothing other than Islam, would ever conceive of questioning it.

I have to commend Muhammed...very few religious leaders have accomplished such rabid control over their followers with as much paranoia, hatred, and devout ignorance. Well done.

Pity that it's not so different from other religions with violent histories. The formula hasn't changed much over time:

--we (religion A) are 'special', 'chosen', 'exalted'
--they (everyone else) are 'damned', 'evil', 'ignorant'
--do not question anything, or you will burn [or meet some other terrible fate]
--do not kill...unless I say so [with numerous liturgical passages allowing it]
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Old 08-03-2010, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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It's perfect propaganda, actually. Only truly brave souls, having known nothing other than Islam, would ever conceive of questioning it.

I have to commend Muhammed...very few religious leaders have accomplished such rabid control over their followers with as much paranoia, hatred, and devout ignorance. Well done.

Pity that it's not so different from other religions with violent histories. The formula hasn't changed much over time:

--we (religion A) are 'special', 'chosen', 'exalted'
--they (everyone else) are 'damned', 'evil', 'ignorant'
--do not question anything, or you will burn [or meet some other terrible fate]
--do not kill...unless I say so [with numerous liturgical passages allowing it]
Very succinctly put. Sums it all up. Well done.

Couldn't rep you again yet, Rayne.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Metromess
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Yes, that's pretty much it, I'd say.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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it's perfect propaganda, actually. Only truly brave souls, having known nothing other than islam, would ever conceive of questioning it.

I have to commend muhammed...very few religious leaders have accomplished such rabid control over their followers with as much paranoia, hatred, and devout ignorance. Well done.

Pity that it's not so different from other religions with violent histories. The formula hasn't changed much over time:

--we (religion a) are 'special', 'chosen', 'exalted'
--they (everyone else) are 'damned', 'evil', 'ignorant'
--do not question anything, or you will burn [or meet some other terrible fate]
--do not kill...unless i say so [with numerous liturgical passages allowing it]
a++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Wink Some new ideas!

But predictably, just you wait, dear readers. soon we'll have an all new thread with an intriguing title like:

"Sharia is Perfect, yes? Why you not absorb?"

or...

"Muhammed only preach love, but within the family. You join family?"

(Hmmm.. maybe I shouldn't be giving them creative thread topic ideas, over there in the cubicles at the mosque.... Gawd, we really need that separate Islamic sub-forum....)
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Maybe the real problem lies with that word, "hidden." They should stop playing badly phrased word games and be a little more up front. Tell us exactly what the plan is. (They're confident enough to believe that it's going to be imposed anyway, so it shouldn't make any difference if the forthcoming victims know what's in store).
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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I fail to see what is "hidden" about Islam's agenda anyway.
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Old 08-06-2010, 03:17 AM
 
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I fail to see what is "hidden" about Islam's agenda anyway.
Well, I used that term for two main reasons:

1) Islam's or Muslim's attempt to hide, downplay, soften (let's face it sometimes downright lie about) the true teachings and history of Islam and thier intentions for the West (for that matter the world). Whether they are radicals who want to infiltrate and destroy or moderates who want to convert - it is prevelent - even sanctioned.

2) Non-muslim's blidness to the above facts. Some people just do not want reality to be what it is for fear of having to make judgments or take serious actions against ideas that although 'religous' are very dangerous and contrary to anything non-Islam. They just want it not to be so and not be put in a positon of conflict.

I did not use it mean that Islam's aganeda is not capable of being understood or discerned - it is just that there are alot of historical and contempory two-faced tactics among the Muslim community when dealing with non-muslims.
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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I can't argue with that! The ends justify any means.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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Well, I used that term for two main reasons:

1) Islam's or Muslim's attempt to hide, downplay, soften (let's face it sometimes downright lie about) the true teachings and history of Islam and thier intentions for the West (for that matter the world). Whether they are radicals who want to infiltrate and destroy or moderates who want to convert - it is prevelent - even sanctioned.

2) Non-muslim's blidness to the above facts. Some people just do not want reality to be what it is for fear of having to make judgments or take serious actions against ideas that although 'religous' are very dangerous and contrary to anything non-Islam. They just want it not to be so and not be put in a positon of conflict.

I did not use it mean that Islam's aganeda is not capable of being understood or discerned - it is just that there are alot of historical and contempory two-faced tactics among the Muslim community when dealing with non-muslims.
The simple reality is that they are COMMANDED to lie and deceive ALL infidels until all is subordinated to Allah under Islam, period. It isn't ALLOWED . . . it is COMMANDED. Westerners have no conception of such a mindset . . . and simply are deceived by their own decency to extend an undeserved tolerance to this deen (it is NOT a religion like any other). Alas . . . we will be victims of our own decency by these barbaric and evil spiritual troglodytes.
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