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look, I'm talking about my law as it is, I am not talking about Lawbreakers,
Is it reasonable to punish the victim in your concept
Did not enter my mind until now
No, it is not at all reasonable to punish the victim, which is why our system of justice--while not 100% perfect--focuses on the accused person.
I can only think of one instance where a victim would be punished...and that is if they were found to have made a false accusation with intent to harm the accused. [If I'm wrong, please correct me, I'm no legal scholar]
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what does means :: cue theme from Jeopardy :: pleas I want to become excellent in your language
My apologies, it was a reference to a quiz show we have here. Near the end of the show, to determine the final winner, a difficult question is posed to the three contestants...and a musical theme is played while they take extra time in formulating their answers.
I envisioned it playing while we waited patiently for your answer.
You say sharia is not imposed on non-muslims. (Did you?)
Why then are non-muslims threatened with death when they challenge mohammed or his image?
If sharia is imposed on muslims in western society, and the punishment for a muslim apostate is death, (stonings and lashings for others) are we to stand by and let punishments (for hadads) we find abhorent and against our laws happen as it appears you have no alternatives? Explain how this works.
yes Sgoldie sharia is not imposed on non-muslims as you know You can not control the reaction of others may be violent (Must not be violent) But I am surprised why non-Muslims do not respect our feelings when they are insult our religion So, Note that any Christian or Jew here Will never allow me to criticize her/his religion, I am surprised when I criticized America's war on Iraq, you will find many Americans to justify without conscience and I accuse me I am anti-American I wonder Only for their own state even though it assaulted on the freedom of other countries and destroyed.
Where democracy while I was assaulted and violated and exterminated the others.
look, any Americans justify here certainly he/she do not deserve respect certainly.
Constitution that claims the democracy and adopts the war is never never respected nor Estimator ..
Confine happiness for myself and people, while others do not is the epitome of brutal and selfishness
Imanway, why must every discussion about sharia be turned, by you, into a tirade about the Iraq War or some other diversion?
Please stay on topic.
And for the last time (doubtful), criticism is not the same as disrespect. Either Islam is strong enough to survive an honest critique...or it's a sham.
No, it is not at all reasonable to punish the victim, which is why our system of justice--while not 100% perfect--focuses on the accused person.
I can only think of one instance where a victim would be punished...and that is if they were found to have made a false accusation with intent to harm the accused. [If I'm wrong, please correct me, I'm no legal scholar]
may is that. I dunno.. there are situations occur I do not know why!
My apologies, it was a reference to a quiz show we have here. Near the end of the show, to determine the final winner, a difficult question is posed to the three contestants...and a musical theme is played while they take extra time in formulating their answers.
I envisioned it playing while we waited patiently for your answer.
Imanway, why must every discussion about sharia be turned, by you, into a tirade about the Iraq War or some other diversion?
Please stay on topic.
And for the last time (doubtful), criticism is not the same as disrespect. Either Islam is strong enough to survive an honest critique...or it's a sham.
No, not for speech about the sharia but It came to my mind after Sgoldie's asking to me, Adopts America's war on Iraq makes me surprised when its people say we are the people of democracy and freedom
it provokes me as Sharia would be provoke you also how the Contradiction!
Sharia law offers nothing to western democracies because it is based on assumptions that we don't accept. Religion is not for everyone--we believe it is a personal choice so the institutions of our society are not based on a religion.
Sharia law requires acceptance of religious oversight in the institutions and governmental structures of a society. It would be an anathema to anyone who is not religious or who holds non-Islamic views. So there is no argument whatsoever for Sharia law in our society unless you want to change the fundamental principles, mores, and values underpining our lives. For me, no thanks.
I don't want anyone telling me how to lead my personal life.
As for women in Islam preferring the cloak of protection of Sharia law--that is all they know. I wonder how many would want to go back to that sheltered childish existance after they became educated, independent, self-sufficient people and proud of it. Very few, I would imagine.
No, not for speech about the sharia but It came to my mind after Sgoldie's asking to me, Adopts America's war on Iraq makes me surprised when its people say we are the people of democracy and freedom
it provokes me as Sharia would be provoke you also how the Contradiction!
As with most countries, the U.S. leaders are never elected in by 100% of the voters. There was never 100% American agreement for the Iraq war or any other, for that matter.
I've already told you in a DM what my feelings are regarding the wars, and that still stands. As an American it is my RIGHT to disagree with my government, and I do so within a secular society with secular laws.
I know that the subject is close to your heart because of your own location...however, the subject OF THIS THREAD is that of sharia, NOT the Iraq war.
That has nothing to do with democracy and freedom, but everything to do with the rules of this website.
So, back to the subject at hand:
Why would Westerners want or need Sharia?
The common message from us westerners is that we do NOT want or need it. We've shown you illustrations as to why we disagree with it.
Have you ever actually been to a Western/European country for any length of time?
I guarantee you that you will not lose your freedom as long as you are alive, stay well
True, but I am not worried about me..... I am worried about in the future, they might lose their freedom from Muslims who want to change the nature of my country and its form of government.
All I have seen from you is a unending support of sharia.
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as Sharia would be provoke you also how the Contradiction!
