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Old 08-29-2010, 07:12 PM
 
Location: NZ Wellington
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Bleh. This is just as incomprehensible and stupid as your last post. I don't think I'll bother responding to any of your future posts as you don't make any sense whatsoever and are probably lacking a high-school education.
I read that post, and it isn't incomprehensible, I suggest you look at yourself, if you are unable to understand.
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Old 08-29-2010, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's quite sad to see the many obvious uneducated responses here, particularly those which are blatantly attacking Islam. I know Islam to be a peaceful religion practised by over 1billion people in the world (and counting). Sure, there is a minority which will 'use' the faith to promote certain political aims and this kind of tactic is well-documented in the history of all the major World religions (Consider the horrendous massacres undertaken by the Christian church throughout the middle ages; the atrocities committed by the Irgun and the Haganah).

There are many videos on youtube which provide an insight into why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the World (which is a fact)- people are choosing Islam as it appeals to them as a peaceful and meaningful way to live their lives. Simple as that.
I'm just curious...If 'peaceful' is all people want...why does one need any religion to gain that??

Can one not be a 'peaceful' person, or soul, without religion? or submiting to a God??

Just asking...
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Old 08-29-2010, 08:19 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Yea but Catholics probably have equally high birth rates.
Not really. Although the faith rejects it the majority of the world's Catholics practice birth control. Although even more traditional Catholics likely have lower birth rates than Muslims because our women are more likely to have jobs, not marry until their 20s, and not live on a farm.

Still there are Catholic countries where the birth rate is high. The number of Asian and African Catholics is growing, in part, due to birthrates in Southeast Asia and Africa. Although conversion is certainly a factor too. However these gains, so far, are being offset by declines in Europe and the Americas. Some Central American and Andean nations have pretty high birth rates, but Pentecostalism is starting to cut into the Catholic population. Pentecostals in some ways seem to be more "pro-business", and anti-establishment, so that might draw away Catholics who dislike both the old regimes and "liberation theology."

Anyway Islam, I don't think, prohibits birth control. High birth rates are sometimes more a product of how emancipated women are, more "emancipated women" tend to have less time for large families, and whether children are a financial gain/loss in their society. In our society they tend to be "a financial loss" because of schooling costs, daycare, medicine, clothes, etc. In societies without child labor or compulsory education laws, like Pakistan, they can be a net-gain after about the age of 8.

Although there are Muslim nations, Iran for example, where the fertility rate has lowered to replacement level. Even in many of the Gulf states it's declined somewhat anyway. Growth is more elsewhere as I recall.
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Old 08-29-2010, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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Listen, grasshoppers:

Give up on condoms, vasectomies and other forms of contraception and outbreed them.

Or

Grow a pair and have immigration officials adopt a zero muslim immigration policy.

Or

Quit whining. Call insurance. Get Islamophobia pills.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:37 PM
 
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Religion Islam does not believes on the concept of "original sin." According to the Islam teachings, people born guiltless. They remain so until an individual himself or herself, commits a sinful deed.The followers of this religion observe no sacraments. Anyone can become a Muslim by his/ her discretion. Introduction to Islam involves no sacramental ceremony, no involvement by any clergy, and no authentication by any organized body.
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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Religion Islam does not believes on the concept of "original sin." According to the Islam teachings, people born guiltless. They remain so until an individual himself or herself, commits a sinful deed.The followers of this religion observe no sacraments. Anyone can become a Muslim by his/ her discretion. Introduction to Islam involves no sacramental ceremony, no involvement by any clergy, and no authentication by any organized body.
Can you leave as easily?
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Metromess
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So, if post #75 is correct, at least Muslims don't believe in original sin, but that hardly makes the rest of it any more acceptable.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:58 AM
 
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Can you leave as easily?


If you live in a muslim country you cannot leave Islam. If you choose to leave Islam in a muslim country there is no where for you to go.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Florida
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illuminatus7,

Again...if all people want is 'peace'...than why does one need Islam to bring that about? Or to be fair, any other religion?
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Carver County, MN
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yea but catholics probably have equally high birth rates.
not necessarity, especially for european "white" catholics. Latino's, (Mexican, Guatemalen etc.) a large majority of which are Catholic, usually have larger families than many protestant and "european Catholic" families though.
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