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Old 08-29-2010, 10:26 PM
 
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Quran which was revealed on the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) 1400 years back is still a complete book of guidance for those who understand the true essence of God.Following are the five selected miracles
1. Universe not stationary.It is in motion and expanding
2. God has created Orbits and all the heavenly bodies are floating synchronously with each other
3.Earth is round but not flat but
4.Everything is created in pairs
5.Frontal part of brain controls the voice and virtual things
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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in Quran you can read about modern scientific stuff wich was discovered with our techonology last 150 years, and dont forget quran came in 6th century. These scientific facts in quran are evidence that Quran has divine orginine, and that it is real Book of God.

let have a look on some of those scientific stuff.

God said this in quran.

Big bang

21:30- Do not these disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were an integrated mass, which We then split, and from water We made all living things? Will they not believe even then? 21-The Prophets, 30



EXPANDING UNIVERSE

51:47- With power did We construct heaven. Verily, We are expanding it. 51-The Dispersing, 47


Pulsars/neutron stars in Quran

PULSARS



God says in quran:

V 1- By the heavens and The Knocker.
V 2- How will you comprehend what the The Knocker is?
V 3- It’s a piercing star.
86-The Knocker, V1-V3 [86 SURA AT-TARIQ, V1-V3]

The word “Tariq” stems from the root “TaRaQa” meaning “knocking, striking.” In many translations of the Quran this word was taken for a name and left untranslated. The word may also mean “to pulsate” like a beating heart, from which the word “pulsar” is derived, denoting an object that is far away in space, and like a star produces a regular radio signal.

LITTLE GREEN MEN OF THE UNIVERSE

In 1967 Jocellyn Bell accidentally stumbled on a gravity time warp a million times greater than that produced by the sun. The object she detected was emitting regular pulses. These pulses were reminiscent of heart-beats. At the time, such a pulsating object was not known to exist in space. At first, it was concluded that these signals might well have been propagated by intelligent beings, inhabitants of other planets. Invitation cards were printed, the media were notified and a seminar was arranged. LGM (Little Green Men) signified that intelligent creatures had been detected and were contacted by radio signals. Not long after, the source of the signals in question was discovered: it was a spinning neutron star, an object whose velocity was incommensurably great. The neutron star had another name: “pulsar.” Bell’s discovery failed to establish contact with the inhabitants of space, but she had found pulsars. The words “pulsar” and “pulsating” seem to accord with the word Tariq of the Quran, which means “knocker.”

CAN YOU COMPREHEND WHAT A PULSAR IS?

In the second verse of the sura, The Knocker, we read: “How will you comprehend what The Knocker is?” A spoonful of matter taken from a pulsar would weigh one billion tons. Were we to depose a small particle of it on earth, the particle would pierce it and end up in its center. Just think of it, a spoonful of any matter on earth hardly weighing more than a few grams! This shows how difficult it is to conceive of a pulsar. A pulsar is produced by the compression of stars a couple of times bigger than the sun. The diameter of a pulsar can be about 15-20 km. Were we to compress our world in a like manner, we would have a sphere of 100 meters of diameter. It takes the earth 24 hours to rotate around its own axis, whereas the pulsar rotates around its own axis many times per second; all these things show how difficult it is to comprehend this striking, pulsating star.

LET’S SEE IF YOU CAN WORK A MIRACLE

Some have tried to identify the star mentioned in the verse and have claimed it to be a certain celestial body, like Saturn or Venus. Mustafa Mlivo, who claims these assumptions are not correct and that “Tariq” is none other than a pulsar, says the following:

Characteristics of the celestial object mentioned in 86:1-3 are:

1- It pulsates (knocks);
2- It is a star;
3- It penetrates, pierces, drills.

None of the solar system planets meets all those criteria because:

A- None of the planets produces pulsations that give the impression of knocking, beating.
B- None of them is a star. They are cold celestial bodies.
C- None of them produces such an intensive radiation.

As one can see, the Quran had already mentioned a star that was to be discovered. This star was indeed discovered, but in the year 1970. Since the concept of a “pulsating star” could not be imagined at that time, it was rendered in translation as it stood, i.e., “Tariq,” the meaning of it being explained in footnotes, in dictionaries and interpretations.

The Quran whose every sentence, every word is based on the finest of meanings, wherein lie hidden realms still to be discovered. The more we study the Quran, the more we are enlightened, the more we learn.

sounds of pulsars
The Sounds of Pulsars

PSR B0329+54
This pulsar is a typical, normal pulsar, rotating with a period of 0.714519 seconds, i.e. close to 1.40 rotations/sec.

listen here how it Knocks
http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/pulsar/Educa...ounds/B0329.au

PSR B0833-45, The Vela Pulsar
This pulsar lies near the centre of the Vela supernova remnant, which is the debris of the explosion of a massive star about 10,000 years ago. The pulsar is the collapsed core of this star, rotating with a period of 89 milliseconds or about 11 times a second.

listen here how it Knocks
http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/pulsar/Education/Sounds/vela.au

HOW COULD MUHAMMED OR ANYBODY ELSE KNOW THE CARACTERISTICS OF PULSARS WHEN THEY HAD NOT TELESCOPES , COMPUTERS AND AMPLIFIERS?


Black Holes in Quran

Black Holes described by God in the Quran - YouTube


God said about parallell universes in quran

67:3 He(God) created seven universes in layers.


From Universe to Multiverse - YouTube


THE UNIVERSE IN GASEOUS/SMOKE STATE

Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke...(The Noble Quran, 41:11)"



Figure 10: A new star forming out of a cloud of gas and dust (nebula), which is one of the remnants of the ‘smoke’ that was the origin of the whole universe. (The Space Atlas, Heather and Henbest, p. 50.)
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:07 PM
 
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Did Prophet Mohammed say..."a fly carries pathogens on its wing, if it goes in your drink, immerse it fully as its other wing carries the cure" or something to that effect. Does not sound like a sound scientific principle. Any truth in it?
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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Did Prophet Mohammed say..."a fly carries pathogens on its wing, if it goes in your drink, immerse it fully as its other wing carries the cure" or something to that effect. Does not sound like a sound scientific principle. Any truth in it?
There are several Ahadith to that effect.

This one has low reliability as it is not an actual eye witness account, it is hearsay evidence

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Sa`id ibn Khalid said: I went in to see Abu Salama. He brought us some butter and date pastry. A fly fell into the dish. Abu Salama began to submerge it (yamquluhu) with his finger. I said, "Uncle! What are you doing?"
He said: "Truly, Abu Sa`id al-Khudri told me that the Messenger of Allah said, 'In one of the fly's two wings there is poison and in another, its antidote. If it falls into food, submerge it in it; for it sends the poison first and keeps the cure last.'"
Al-TahawÓ in Sharh Mushkil al-Ath‚r (8:339 #3289)
This one has a High degree of Authenticity and an acceptable level of Reliability.

.narrated from Abu Hurayra and Abu Sa`Ód al-KhŻdrÓ by al-BukharÓ and in the Sun‚n:

If a fly falls into one of your containers [of food or drink], immerse it completely (falyaghmis-hu kullahu) before removing it, for under one of its wings there is venom and under another there is its antidote.
A version from Abu Hurayra in Abu DawŻd, Ahmad, and al-TahawÓ's Sharh Mushkil al-Ath‚r (8:341 #3293) adds:

And it [al-Tahawi: "always"] protects itself (yattaqi) with the wing that carries the poison, so immerse it completely.
Ahmad and al-TahawÓ add: "Then remove it."

We have the words of 4 witnesses that heard Muhammad(PBUH) however the wording differs among them. We do not know the exact words used, but We can be certain Muhammad(PBUH) did speak of one wing having poison and the other having the antidote.






Authenticity is if there is a chain of narrators and if the chain can be followed back to an actual person known to have lived at the time of Muhammad(PBUH) and could have been a witness. Not all Ahadith can be traced back so there is question as to if it was actually the words of a witness.

Reliability is based upon the number of authenticated witnesses found. The lowest being just one witness, the highest being four or more. All saying the exact same words.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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Even if its authenticated as being accurate in the fact the claim was made...it doesn't seem a very sound scientific principle.
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Old 10-21-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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Even if its authenticated as being accurate in the fact the claim was made...it doesn't seem a very sound scientific principle.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
"If a fly falls down to your vessel,
drown all of it then remove it,
for one of its wings has the ailment
and the other has the cure,"
........... that is exactly where a team of Australian researchers is...... The new buzz on antibiotics õ News in Science (ABC Science)





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Old 10-21-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
"If a fly falls down to your vessel,
drown all of it then remove it,
for one of its wings has the ailment
and the other has the cure,"
........... that is exactly where a team of Australian researchers is...... The new buzz on antibiotics õ News in Science (ABC Science)





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Islamic science has come to this pitiful end | Pharyngula honestly get real...even if you suspended all common sense the good Lord had given you..your Australian researchers didn't prove the Hadith, as in the disease on ONE WING and the cure ON THE OTHER.

Flies are immune to viruses and bacterium that effect humans, we get sick cos they are dirty insects who frequent anything rotting and faecal in nature then go land and regurgitate on our food which we unsuspecting folk then eat...so becoming ill. They carry disease only because of the unsavoury places they choose to land, they are bound to have some natural immunity as every living thing does. No miraculous revelation here, just natures way, which is the will of God.

Got to give you marks for trying tho..
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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"If a fly falls down to your vessel,
drown all of it then remove it,
for one of its wings has the ailment
and the other has the cure,"
........... that is exactly where a team of Australian researchers is.....

What does "exactly" mean?
The article does not mention a wing.
The article does not mention an ailment.
The article does not mention any cure for anything.

So what is "exactly"? All the article says is that they found substances where some of "the larvae all showed antibacterial properties".

Not all flies.
Some larvae.

On 4 species the article says what was found is "antibacterial properties were present on the fly surface". These "antibacterial compounds" will need to be identified.
How are the 2 instances, 1 in the Hadith and 1 in an article, in any way comparable?
The one mentions an ailment and a cure, the other mentions neither.
Does dunking a fly in your drink demonstrate any measurable results?
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