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Old 09-22-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mercury Cougar View Post
Trying to convince us on an internet forum isn't going to work. Like I've already said, you Muslims need to clean up your own religion before anyone else is going to believe you're serious about being 'peaceful'.
Be fair and just plz
read that then judge justly:




[SIZE=5]What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4] God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: {...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}3[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.6}7 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]He also said that a man gave a very thirsty dog a drink, so God forgave his sins for this action. The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam. [/SIZE]

 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Canada
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dear , it doesn`t matter to convert people to Islam or not....we can only show the true path in our point of view.we believe that Islam is the right path , u may believe that christianity is the right path....if we call u to Islam that`s only from our love to people to guide them to right path and we respect ur beliefs anyway....we respect difference

256. There is no compulsion in religion. Now the path of rectitude has been made distinct from the path of error. Therefore, he who disbelieves in the Tâghût (false gods and false beliefs) and believes in Allâh will have firmly grasped the eternal, the unchangeable, and the most secure handhold, which will never separate or break. And Allâh is Ever-Hearing, Ever-Knowing. (Quran 2: 256)

Oh please. I find it very insulting when people in general try to push their religion on others, dear.
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Originally Posted by light beam View Post
Be fair and just plz
read that then judge justly:




[SIZE=5]What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4]Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=4] God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: {...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}3[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.4 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.6}7 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]He also said that a man gave a very thirsty dog a drink, so God forgave his sins for this action. The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam. [/SIZE]
What do you say to this:

Muslims Lying About Islamic Atrocities - HUMAN EVENTS
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Then why do they claim it is in the name of Islam, they have to be getting the ideas from somewhere.
They speak what they want
They are a community of people who have no religious
But they want to stick the charges Islam
I do not understand the law Mamahma?
Although it may sober Muslims
But it was far removed from Islam
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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The problem with Islam is its atrocities NOW.
Mercury, no disrespect to you, but do you blame all Muslims for those atrocities? It sounds to me as though there are Muslims who believe in Islam who are trying to do the right thing and trying to explain that not all Muslims are terrorists, if we were to put aside the hatred and animosity towards one another and sit down and listen to what each other has to say with respect to each other, maybe things could be different.
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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Because it's a bunch of nonsense.

Let's turn the question around. Since Christ provides you with the way to peace, love and humility, why would you support a faith that deems it perfectly fine to war with neighbors who don't necessarily agree with you? We can make the case that the Crusades, for example, are at odds with Christian thought. Yet Islam endorses violence and killing.
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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Then why do they claim it is in the name of Islam, they have to be getting the ideas from somewhere.
this is can be misunderstood of real Islam but we can not say Islam is bad causes of these groups of people .
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Nea1 View Post
Then why do they claim it is in the name of Islam, they have to be getting the ideas from somewhere.
this is can be misunderstood of real Islam but we can not say Islam is bad because of these groups of people .
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Originally Posted by Ali_wainani View Post
this is can be misunderstood of real Islam but we can not say Islam is bad causes of these groups of people .
Muslims Lying About Islamic Atrocities - HUMAN EVENTS
 
Old 09-22-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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Mercury, no disrespect to you, but do you blame all Muslims for those atrocities? It sounds to me as though there are Muslims who believe in Islam who are trying to do the right thing and trying to explain that not all Muslims are terrorists, if we were to put aside the hatred and animosity towards one another and sit down and listen to what each other has to say with respect to each other, maybe things could be different.
Listening to them object that Islam is peaceful isn't working. If it's not up to muslims to fix the image of their religion, then who? Tell me, who is responsible to seek out islamic terrorists and make sure they can't hurt anyone? Christians? Atheists? The United States military? Tibetan monks?

What it comes down to is that much like Christianity did in its checkered past, Islam has to quash its violent members. Unfortunately, we get people like the posters in this thread, who say there's nothing wrong with Islam, and that it's not their responsibility that muslim terrorists kill in the name of their god.

It's like having a neighbor who is generally a really nice guy, except he lets his dogs come over and crap on your lawn. When you complain, he says "I'm a really good guy and I don't condone dogs crapping on anyone's lawn!" and yet he doesn't come over and clean up the crap, and he doesn't keep them from crapping there the next day.
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